I can’t help joining in this discussion, but there seems to be 2 threads that are not exclusive. Firstly is the wish to allow sailors to sail whatever is suitable for the conditions, on the grounds that they wouldn’t go out if not allowed their choice. I think we all start out rather like that, but this was not originally allowed in the RYA recommended SIs (except as a separate entry) since it clearly favours those with unlimited resources. For the clubs that have fleets that race such yachts, then using “personal handicaps” would give them racing results, but there would have to be an extra field for each particular race entry to specify the yacht used, and to derive some yacht information for the RYA PT committee. Our very varied cruiser fleet is using NHC and we are avoiding using separate ratings for eg spinnaker use or not - which simplifies matters, and doesn’t obviously alter the results one way or another.
I think that as one becomes more experienced and starts to race regularly the desire to match ones performance against a better sailor becomes more interesting, and it becomes more important that boats are evenly matched, I don’t think the olympics would have any credibility if you were allowed to vary your boat ad lib!
from archies97 (cruiser racing cc, bsc)
—In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, <sailtastic@…> wrote :
The only downside as discussed is that before you upload to PYS you currently need
to get those results out and entered as separate lines.
I don’t know I’d go as far as saying its the only downside.
Consider the process for entering results in the main series I score, which are dual scored with personal handicaps.
If a person is sailing their proper boat I use sailnumber wizard, the result is entered, the alias picks up the times and sets it for the other handicap and the whole system works brilliantly and I’m very grateful for it.
If someone is sailing an alternate boat-
a) the race file may have that boat in, I don’t know its an alternate, so I enter it in sailnumber wizard as normal. Then when I’m out of sail number wizard I need to go through the list of competitors, spot the alternate boat entries, manually transfer the time to the primary boat and then change the handicap to the one from the alias for both the main entry and the personal handicap alias, mark the secondary boat as excluded and make a comment in the Notes field of the primary boat. I really ought to put the same comment in the alias boat as well, but it rarely happens!
b) I do know its an alternate boat and remember correctly what the sail number of the primary boat is. I put the primary sail number in. I then need to exit sail number wizard and change the handicap to the one from the alias for both the main entry and the personal handicap alias and make a comment in the Notes field of the primary boat.
c) The secondary boat is not in the sailwave file. I do an auto entry as usual, then when I exit sail number wizard I need to manually transfer the time to the primary boat and then look up both handicaps for the new boat from the master spreadsheet, change the handicap to the one from the alias for both the main entry and the personal handicap alias, mark the secondary boat as excluded or delete it and make a comment in the Notes field of the primary boat.
I rather envy Lancing’s simplicity, but its not how our members want their scoring done!
I have no idea what development priorities are, but it does seem as if the desire to combine results for different physical boats is not unique, especially with the increase in classes with interchangeable rigs, so it may be worthy of consideration.
regards, Jim C
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On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 11:27 AM, “yho@devboats.co.uk [sailwave]” sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote: