Same issue for me Rhys. I just load the .blw files into PYS. The auto upload was always a bit sensitive and in the early days of PYS mistakes were very hard to correct hence the manual uploading.
Hi Paul,
Looks like I might resort to going straight to PYS, I’ve tried a couple of PCs with various versions of sailwave and I get nowhere. If I can get it to connect it sits there doing something, but then fails to complete the upload. It creates various temp files, several of which seem to be 0 Bytes, so not promising. A bit disappointing, I was really looking forward to being able to just click a button after updating the results, safe in the knowledge I’d sent the latest data to the RYA. Having seen some of the whacky numbers they published this year I think they need a lot more data!
Cheers,
Rhys
Rhys,
Urr, I’m chair of the Portsmouth Yardstick Advisory Group that recommends the numbers the RYA set. Which numbers do you think are whacky in particular? Are they trial numbers per chance?
Obviously we welcome all returns so if you need any further help please let me know.
Chris
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On 7 May 2014, at 10:09, rhys.lankester@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Paul,
Looks like I might resort to going straight to PYS, I’ve tried a couple of PCs with various versions of sailwave and I get nowhere. If I can get it to connect it sits there doing something, but then fails to complete the upload. It creates various temp files, several of which seem to be 0 Bytes, so not promising. A bit disappointing, I was really looking forward to being able to just click a button after updating the results, safe in the knowledge I’d sent the latest data to the RYA. Having seen some of the whacky numbers they published this year I think they need a lot more data!
Cheers,
Rhys
Hi Rhys,
I just had a look at the upload site and I can see that there is a file
BristolC_sws0764275842902598_2.xml submitted 6/5/14 11:30 so it looks like you submitted it OK
If anyone is experiencing problems with the upload and Sailwave please let me know and I’ll investigate.
As long as you are using one of the later versions that have the new RYA server address configured within Sailwave there should not be a problem
Regards
Jon
Hi Rhys,
Attached is screen shot of recent uploads
Jon
Chris
In brief, and using the Laser II as an example I know well (I’ve sailed the same boat for 29 years), I really doubt that the boat has just got 2% slower (1035 to 1055). What undoubtedly has happened is that it is now raced by more ‘recreational’ sailors, and/or the better ones have just got older 
Until the online PY return scheme takes crew skill factor into account (a non-trivial operation for sure), then I suspect that we are likely to see questionable numbers issued.
Of course some of the larger changes are undoubtedly correcting historical errors, which have become apparent through use of the on-line returns system, and I welcome the RYA’s efforts to increase their data harvesting in this way.
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
—In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, <chrisgandy@…> wrote :
Rhys,
Urr, I’m chair of the Portsmouth Yardstick Advisory Group that recommends the numbers the RYA set. Which numbers do you think are whacky in particular? Are they trial numbers per chance?
PYS is observed relative performance.
It seems to me quite feasible that the increasingly decrepit Laser II fleet is indeed getting relatively slower compared to more active classes that have a constant flow of new boats coming through. Indeed I think it would be surprising if that were not the case. And the bar is raising too. Many of the old established one design classes have much the same PY that they had 40 years ago, but I bet that with modern ropes, sail materials, gear, even construction methods they actually circulate the race track a little faster then they used to…
Jim C
The ‘observed relative performance’ is that of boat and crew. Without taking into account the latter, you don’t get a realistic indication of the former
Other examples: why has the Laser 1 got ‘slower’ over the last few years? IME it has become easier to sail with the ‘new’ controls. And then there’s the RS Vision…
Mike
Lancing SC
—In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, <yho@…> wrote :
PYS is observed relative performance.
It seems to me quite feasible that the increasingly decrepit Laser II fleet is indeed getting relatively slower compared to more active classes that have a constant flow of new boats coming through. Indeed I think it would be surprising if that were not the case. And the bar is raising too. Many of the old established one design classes have much the same PY that they had 40 years ago, but I bet that with modern ropes, sail materials, gear, even construction methods they actually circulate the race track a little faster then they used to…
Jim C