To be honest Tom, I personally don’t understand the root of the concern. Our legal beagles derived the Commercialism Policy from their interpretation of the legal docs. I consulted the committee specifically with this issue. I have forwarded the earlier reply on this list to them for their consideration, and will forward yours as well.
I, and indeed the club, agree that as the only cost for SailWave this request is very reasonable and generous. As I noted in my original post it is not a matter of cost or lack appreciation for Colin’s efforts. It’s strictly an attempt to avoid any hint of jeopadizing our not-for-profit status. Apparently there are circumstances in which linking to a commercial site can do just that. What circumstances I don’t know, but our web committee, of which I am a member, has been warned to be careful what links are used.
I want to give Colin and SailWave any and all recognition we can, but I have to work within my club’s policies. Having the URL as text, but not a live link is acceptable, presumably because it takes a specific effort on the user’s part to copy and paste the link into the address field.
If this concern is deemed unfounded upon further review I’ll let you all know and accommodate Colin in his original request.
David Ferguson
Dulcius ex Asperis
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From: “Tom liston”
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Sailwave license agreement
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:22:13 -0500
David;
Our sailing club is also a not for profit organization. We have links on
our website to boat manufacturers, boat dealers, parts suppliers and off
course to Sailwave. We do not profit from any of those links. Many of them
have links to our site. We do not profit from those links either. I fail
to see how your club feels that associating with any commercial organization
impacts your non-profit status. Does your club own any Race Committee
boats? Did your buying them affiliate you with the commercial organization
that you bought them from? I don’t think so. The purchase price to your
club for the use of Sailwave is to maintain links to the product. I feel
that is a very reasonable and generous request. If that price is too high
for you, you can purchase another product with $'s and eliminate the
commercializing link.
Tom Liston
734/449-8140
From: “daviddcferguson” >To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com>Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave license agreement>Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 8:11 PM>>My post earlier today appears to have lost its content. I’ll re->compose it as best I can.>>I hate to be the squeaky wheel but requiring that a live link be>included with the race results may preclude my club from using>SailWave because it conflicts with our Commercialism Policy.>>Colin, I ran your earlier request - to keep the URL in the results>and post something on our website about SailWave - by our>Commercialism committee. They agreed wholeheartedly that we should>acknowledge using SailWave to manage race results, but they felt we>could not post a live link to the SailWave site.>>As a non-profit (or is that not-for-profit, I never know)>organization we cannot appear to be affiliated with any commercial>enterprises without jeopardizing that status. While SailWave is not>a commercial enterprise today, it may become so in the future, as>you yourself have mentioned.>>As everyone else has already stated we love the product, are very>grateful to your for your efforts and want to give you the>recognition you deserve. If you could require a written reference>to SailWave instead of a live link we would be happy to comply (and>indeed already planned to).>>Dave Ferguson>>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwave>http://www.sailwave.com/>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:>sailwave-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>>------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~–>Access Your PC from AnywhereCheck Email & Transfer files - Free Downloadhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/omECdA/3XkDAA/DIxGAA/A1TolB/TM---------------------------------------------------------------------~->http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sailwavehttp://www.sailwave.com/To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:sailwave-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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