Hi Martin
Apart from the 'annoyance' of adjusting results, presume like me, you agree the rest of the program
was great.
Interested to hear what the Class Association want for ranking but not sure of the system in
operation.
When running national class rankings myself, I have always eliminated non-qualifying competitors
first, then re-scored as this quite often can produce a different class 'winner' (sounds wrong but
for those who have done this exercise it is true)
This process is valid when looking at normal fleet racing results but trying to apply this logic to
flight racing may be a problem. I am no mathematician but if the remainder produces differing
numbers in the flights, will this not produce different points for the ones at the back of the fleet
e.g if one boat finished last in every race, its points could range from say 70 down to 50?
depending on how many competitors were removed from each flight.
If there are an equal number of non-qualifiers in each flight there there is not a problem.
If I was using a flights event for national rankings therefore, I would tend to exclude
non-qualifiers just from the final regatta placings. This would then allow me to add an extra column
(Q or NQ?) to Sailwave, then sort on this column first then by total points or overall ranking.
Alternatively, I would export the data to Excel & re-sort there.
At the end of the day, SW automates so many aspects of scoring a regatta that is great in what it
does for a straight forward regatta. When we try to use it for something different, it doesn't
always work.
Colin has done a great job but as the program and its uses has moved on I suspect that we are now
coming up against a conflict in the basic programing i.e from a point that there can NEVER be two
scores the same to the opposite but still wanting the same logic to be applied in the automation.
The short term solution was to switch off not allowing duplicates & a semi-manual exercise if we
wanted to change the results.
As usual, Colin has said he will get round to it as soon as possible, but in the meantime Martin,
may I suggest that you have a chat with the Class Association & let Colin know what the processes of
re-scoring are (just in case 'absolute' rescoring is not necessary)
Regards
Ralph
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bolgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
Sent: 25 April 2005 10:21
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Scoring flights
OK!
Now it's been tested scoring flights in Norway too. At http://www.dssf.no/nc/ you can see 141
Optimsts scored!
(For those who can't read Norwegian, Optimist Eldste klasse is the flight racing, and "totalt begge
dager" is the total with 6 flights)
As mentioned before, there is a little "problem" by updating flights when scoring DSQ,DNF and so on
after using SailNumberWizard.
This is solved by using "Tools+Rearrange recorded Places"... And here we also discovered another
minor "bug": When in the tool "rearrange places" you can adjust by adding or subtracting by 1 from
or to "all places after and including place" .... And there is the problem! The default selection is
to ADD, but if I want to SUBTRACT it is natural to start to adjust the number. I can do that, but
the RADIOBUTTON does not change to the subtract selection. It should have, because when I adjust the
subtract-place SW should have known that I wanted to subtract!
So far so good.
The Norwegian Optimist Class Asossiation are evaluating SW for ranking, and here rises another
problem: They need to remove all foreign sailors and all those who are to young to be in the rank
(this year those borned in 1993 and 1994). So, when excluding, or deleting, the competitor the same
problem as when rescoring by code, arises....
So, for using SW to rank, there is a lot of work to do....
Hopes Colin can have something for ver. 1.59 to this....
Regards
Martin
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Grimstad seilforening
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