[sailwave] Spinnaker

It is in the RYA guidelines but for Cruisers not Dinghy's. However there
are other things there as well so why just spinnaker? They also cover
things like inboard, outboard, 2,3,folding propellers and
Fin/bilge/triple keels. The normal PY is given for a particular
configuration and then that can be altered for by adding or subtracting
numbers based on the difference in configuration.

John

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:00
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Spinnaker

Hi Terry
Not sure which member of the RYA gave you this advice but to my

knowledge,

it is not a 'rule' issued
by the PY advisory Group. All I can think of is that they gave you a
differential for a specific
class of boat, not a general rule across all classes.

The method to use is to ascertain the PY for with & without kite then
enter them as two different
class types in the ratings list.

It is also quite rare for a dinghy to be issued with two PYs as the

system

relies upon clubs sending
in returns for the two configurations. If you come across this problem
regularly, you will probably
need to calculate your own club PY when a kite is not being used.

Regards
Ralph

From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 06 June 2005 23:30
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Spinnaker

When entering boat type, could a check box be added for "Spinnaker".

If a

boat does not carry a Spinnaker, according RYA PY, she gets 40 added

to

her
PY.

That said however, a boat like a Enterprise does not carry a spinnaker
ever,
so if this box is unchecked on entry, she should not get the 40 point
advantage.

Would also be handy if a column could be added to results to show

which

boats entered the series declaring a spinnaker.

Regards
Terry

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Thanks John

Just like to prove every now & again that I am a flawed dinghy person :wink:

Regards
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From: Harvey, John [mailto:jpharvey@ptc.com]
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Spinnaker

It is in the RYA guidelines but for Cruisers not Dinghy's. However there
are other things there as well so why just spinnaker? They also cover
things like inboard, outboard, 2,3,folding propellers and
Fin/bilge/triple keels. The normal PY is given for a particular
configuration and then that can be altered for by adding or subtracting
numbers based on the difference in configuration.

John

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:00
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Spinnaker

Hi Terry
Not sure which member of the RYA gave you this advice but to my

knowledge,

it is not a 'rule' issued
by the PY advisory Group. All I can think of is that they gave you a
differential for a specific
class of boat, not a general rule across all classes.

The method to use is to ascertain the PY for with & without kite then
enter them as two different
class types in the ratings list.

It is also quite rare for a dinghy to be issued with two PYs as the

system

relies upon clubs sending
in returns for the two configurations. If you come across this problem
regularly, you will probably
need to calculate your own club PY when a kite is not being used.

Regards
Ralph

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From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
Sent: 06 June 2005 23:30
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Spinnaker

When entering boat type, could a check box be added for "Spinnaker".

If a

boat does not carry a Spinnaker, according RYA PY, she gets 40 added

to

her
PY.

That said however, a boat like a Enterprise does not carry a spinnaker
ever,
so if this box is unchecked on entry, she should not get the 40 point
advantage.

Would also be handy if a column could be added to results to show

which

boats entered the series declaring a spinnaker.

Regards
Terry

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Thanks Ralph, Good idea to create a seperate class.

John, Where does it say this is not for Dinghies? I have been to a few races
where they have used it for Dinghies, and if they are not supposed to I
would like to point it out to them.

Regards
Terry

From: Harvey, John [mailto:jpharvey@ptc.com]
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:18
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Spinnaker

It is in the RYA guidelines but for Cruisers not Dinghy's.
However there
are other things there as well so why just spinnaker? They also cover
things like inboard, outboard, 2,3,folding propellers and
Fin/bilge/triple keels. The normal PY is given for a particular
configuration and then that can be altered for by adding or
subtracting
numbers based on the difference in configuration.

John

> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Ralph Tingle
> Sent: 07 June 2005 10:00
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sailwave] Spinnaker
>
> Hi Terry
> Not sure which member of the RYA gave you this advice but to my
knowledge,
> it is not a 'rule' issued
> by the PY advisory Group. All I can think of is that they gave you a
> differential for a specific
> class of boat, not a general rule across all classes.
>
> The method to use is to ascertain the PY for with & without
kite then
> enter them as two different
> class types in the ratings list.
>
> It is also quite rare for a dinghy to be issued with two PYs as the
system
> relies upon clubs sending
> in returns for the two configurations. If you come across
this problem
> regularly, you will probably
> need to calculate your own club PY when a kite is not being used.
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
>
> From: Terry [mailto:terry.home@home-it.com]
> Sent: 06 June 2005 23:30
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Spinnaker
>
>
> When entering boat type, could a check box be added for "Spinnaker".
If a
> boat does not carry a Spinnaker, according RYA PY, she gets 40 added
to
> her
> PY.
>
> That said however, a boat like a Enterprise does not carry
a spinnaker
> ever,
> so if this box is unchecked on entry, she should not get
the 40 point
> advantage.
>
> Would also be handy if a column could be added to results to show
which
> boats entered the series declaring a spinnaker.
>
> Regards
> Terry
>
>
>
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