Hi Mark
Gone back to SUG so that others can see.
I (and perhaps others) may have misinterpreted your query.
Opis & many other big fleets have gone over to racing in flights.
Results of the Red & Green 'flight race' are added to the results of the Blue & Yellow 'flight race'
to produce an overall regatta race. i.e the race has two 1sts, 2nds, 3rds etc
From you email, you seem to be suggesting that all boats (red, blue & white) sail against each other
in one mass start.
When the regatta has ended, PRIZES are then awarded to the highest x boats from each fleet.
I presume fleets are based upon ability, age or some other criteria.
If I have arrived at the correct conclusion then a solution to your problem may be as below:
- Sort your final results by the column containing the fleet indentity
- Hold down the Control key then do a secondary sort on the rank column
If required:
- 'Seed' a column for each fleet in turn (this will enter a 'fleet' position)
Publish the overall series in whatever format you require
(Results will be published as they appear on the screen)
I have attached a copy of a regatta which I ran last year so that you can play with sorting,
publishing, seeding etc
Is this what you were looking for???
I did try to set up a 'top x' listing using the Prizes option but this only automatically chooses
the best from a range of competitors (did this not used to have a wider range of finishers than just
best???)
Re your second question
I have used a high point system of number of boats beat (ignoring divided by) with great success in
a National ranking series for one design fleets.
The benefit of this is that if a boat finishes 1st in a 30 boat regatta, it gains more points than
winning a 10 boat regatta.
There are many mathematicians who will argue 'coefficient this' & 'standard deviation that' but a
simple boats beat + 1 is something that competitors can understand.
Perhaps the argument is to
retain the first part of your sentence (boats beat + 1) & delete the last bit (divided by.....)
Let me know if you need any more help
Regards
Ralph
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Schneider [mailto:mschneid@msn.com]
Sent: 10 January 2006 20:05
To: rat@attat.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] US Opti red white and blue fleet scoring
Hi Ralph
The CBYRA region is attemtping to mandate the use of Javascore this season.
I discovered that Sailwave could not quickly implement the following.
"Overall Scoring is USODA Policy
Overal scoring is USODA policy., It determines places within the red, blue,
and white fleets simply by looking at the overall results using blue fleet
as and eaxample, to determin 1st through 5th place in blue fleet using
overall socoring, you simply run down the overall list of finisher and look
for the first blue fleeter, the second blue fleeter etc. This gives you the
order of finihser in the blue fleet and awards are then made using this
list:
... with overall scoring the awards made to blue fleeters are exactly the
same as the order in which they finished in the overall results.
... all regatta organizers are urged to use this scoring method rather then
fleet scoring when calculating standings in red white and blue fleets.
Java score has a check box which rescores the overall standings into Overall
fleet standings.
Ander's did not say much that helped me here. I haven't puzzled over it yet
though either. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a second question
They also use a high point calculaton that does not make sense to me. Its
something like number of boats beaten + 1 divided by the number of boats
that you could have beaten + 1.
This is just a linear calculation Does it really do a good job of scoring a
region wide one design fleet
5 or more events qualify you for high point.
They find that the kids don't pay much attention to this result and believe
that if they publish the high point standings every week that the kids will
be interested. I think they are missing something but can''t put it into
words. I would think that Rinderlee or the Chipstead system would be far
supperior and the table would allow a kid to figure ... what score they need
to move up. What argument should I make to them.
Thanks
Mark
