Sailwave v2.00 build 0 - PRIVATE RELEASE TO SUG FOR EVALUATION

Not a problem… I didn’t think it was supposed to work, but thought I would mention in case.

Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

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To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: colin@sailwave.com
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:27:33 +0100
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Sailwave v2.00 build 0 - PRIVATE RELEASE TO SUG FOR EVALUATION

Thanks MArk - that wont really work for these beta releases - I need to do somehting so it makes sense…
CJ

Mark Townsend wrote:

The “Check to see if new versions of Sailwave are available” says that Sailwave Version 2 Build 0 is the most current.

Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com


To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: colin@sailwave.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:35:53 +0100
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Sailwave v2.00 build 0 - PRIVATE RELEASE TO SUG FOR EVALUATION

OK, thanks Philippe. Sailwave is not (and presently cannot be) a unicode app so any character codes > 255 are not going to work. There is also the issue of which character set is chosen in Sailwave (Global options) and what language somebody’s computer is working in. It’s a bit of a nightmare to be honest. Are there any experts in this field out there… I’m not sure I follow all the combinations…

I changed to MS Sans Serif font because it looked OK with with MS ClearType on - where as the original font Tahoma - which I chose because it had more non-western character support than MS Sans Serif, looked terrible.

I think I need to be able to let the user specify which font to display the windows in addition to the main grid and in addition to the charset option in the Global options…

Colin J
Sailwave

Philippe DE TROY wrote:

Colin,

As soon as I’ve sorted out all remaining problems after my regatta I will test it. Still using 1.95 Build 12. Special characters are modified in the medical tab in this version.

The problem for me is thant some special letters are pronounced very differently (in Polish, Ł sounds as W), so for prizegiving, it is important to have the right speling, including acents.

It is also more polite from an organisation to display the names as properly as possible. Not always easy, see the ISAF rankings… I know this is impossible to do for all, I’ve also Rusian competitors and I cannot mix Cyrillic and latin, hapily I’ve to wait for some years before Tunisians and Chinese competitors are joining the Micro Class…

See on http://www.microclass.org/results/EM07.html some examples of the special characters I’ve currently to use (LAT-222, POL-28, LAT-228, LAT-77, POL-25, LAT-179, LAT-84, LAT-42…)

French letters like é, è, ê or German like ë, ä, ü are not altered

Philippe

----- Original Message -----

From: Colin Jenkins

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:26 PM

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Sailwave v2.00 build 0 - PRIVATE RELEASE TO SUG FOR EVALUATION

Philippe,

Can you confirm for me that if you go into a competitor - medical tab - and paste Łukasz Ołtarzewski into the multiline medical notes field that the characters display properly - but - if you paste it into any of the single line entry fields, like Helm, it does not… Can you also see if typing such characters into the multi line text field work OK for you - and similarly does not for single line fields.

Regards
Colin J
Sailwave

Philippe DE TROY wrote:

Colin,

A first point is that it is important to use ths version only for testing, as compatibility doesn’t exist with lower versions, and files transmitted to other users, not using 2.0 could lead to problems.

Presently, just out of a major regatta, I will begin testing now.

A problem encountered with 1.95 build 12 was that special characters, like Polish ones (codes ę - Ł - Ń) and Latvian ones are a problem for me, as the letter, copied from an entry form, or imported from a CSV file, is not displayed properly in Sailwave. And Łukasz Ołtarzewski is displayed as Lukasz Oltarzewski…

I’m also deeply worried with the locales, I’ve still a very large number of items declared as obsolete and an almost as large number or items to translate, approx 270. If new builds and versions are making 15% of the translations obsolete, translators will stop working soon…

Phil

----- Original Message -----

From: Colin Jenkins

To: Sailwave User Group

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 3:25 PM

Subject: [sailwave] Sailwave v2.00 build 0 - PRIVATE RELEASE TO SUG FOR EVALUATION

Hi all,

Version 2.00 build 0

I have moved to the next release of the development environment used to create Sailwave (Clarion 6.3) and dumped the multi-threaded approach when opening more than one file/series for the more modern apprach where opening another file opens a complete new instance of the program - Sailwave in this case - this is much more stable that the old method - which is also dated now from a design POV. Seems rock solid here opening an arbitrary number of files. Note that the Window menu allows you to switch between files - as well as the usual Windows methods of Alt-Tab etc. Removing threading should also improve stability in Windows emlulators for Max/Linux and simply the path to a possible portable app. I have rearranged Sailwave internally as well and may have introduced some weirdnesses. Locales should be better but see below.

Install into usual place and just reinstall 1.95 build 12 when you need to. However MAKE A COPY OF ANY .BLW FILES YOU OPEN BECAUSE THE SAVED FILE FORMAT HAS CHANGED A BIT TOO.

All feedback - good and bad - appreciated…

Note that the download is slightly larger than usual because runtime debugging options are all turned on.

You can download it (or install from) here:-

http://www.sailwave.com/binary/sw200b0.exe

During an event the ability to auto open the last file should be useful - see “Global options”.

Regards,
Colin


List of changes:-

Add a options for when Sailwave starts to the global options.

Enhance remembering window positions/sizes between sessions.

Change the Windows menu to red if the same file is open more than once.

Tidy icons.

Move development environment to Clarion version 6 (from 5.5).

Fix file not closing sometimes using File+Exit.

Extend competitor fields to specify contact details for all named crew:
Helm, Skipper, Owner, Guest, Navigator, Tactician, Pit, Mast, Bowman,
Main trimmer, Port Trimmer, Starboard Trimmer, Port Grinder, Starboard Grinder.
Like all competitor fields, these can be renamed and used for other purposes.
Need ‘extra competitor fields’ on in UI for this. May split this off into an option of its own.

Add ability to set crew weight in ISAF SCHRS calculator.

Change to a single document interface philosophy a la OpenOffice etc.
This should make Sailwave much more stable under Linux and Apple OS emulators.
You can now safely open as many Sailwave series as you like -
each one is a completly separate instance of Sailwave.
Use the Windows menu to switch between them -
great for Vista with the thumbnail view when switching between apps.

Update the RYA returns post processing URL.

Fix publishing by email using SMTP - i.e. send now.

Fix SMTP user name and password in global options.

Fix selecting the correct tab when entering Edit+Competitor.

Do some locale fixes. Unfortunately all radio button translations may be lost
(depends when you last updated) and may need to be redone,
but Sailwave doesn’t use that many… sorry about that.



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Colin, I have been testing flight scoring. I rescored the U.S. Cal 20 Class Championship from 2008, which had a qualifier series prior to the championship series. I have attached the .blw file and html results from the qualifier series.

I have found the following problems.

–> In Race 2 Cal 20 #363 Finished 3rd in the Blue vs Red start and #373 finished 4th in the Green vs Yellow start. They should have received 3 and 4 points.
There are no dead heats; yet in Race 2 Boats #376 and #373 are both scored with 1.5 points.
When you display their finish place in the cell by hitting F6, they both show as 1st place, they were not.
If you display the rearrange recorded places they are correctly shown as 3rd and 4th.

–> The published results for the individual races have the results of the different flights inter mixed. For example in Race 2 the Blue vs Red and Green vs Yellow are intermixed, the first boat from the Blue vs Red is followed by the first boat from the Green vs Yellow flight, rather than all the Blue vs Red competitors followed by all the Green vs Yellow competitors.

R2

Start:Red Yellow, Finishes:Place, Time:12:00, Course:2
Start:Blue Green, Finishes:Place, Time:12:05, Course:2
Rank
BowNumber
Flight
Boat
Class
SailNo
HelmName
CrewName
Club
Place
Notes
1
28
Blue
Cal 20
979
Chris Raab
Vann Wilson/Kenny Dair
Alamitos Bay YC
1
2
12
Red
Cal 20
363
Mark Gaudio
Erik Heim/Jeff Keenon
Bahia Corinthian YC
1
2
11
Yellow
Bandini Mountain
Cal 20
376
Mark Golison
Steve Flam/Jennifer Golison
Alamitos Bay YC
1
4
18
Green
Hot Pink
Cal 20
238
Jennifer Kuritz
Steve Kuritz/ John Ellis
Alamitos Bay YC
2
5
40
Blue
Cal 20
63
Jib Kelly
Mike Burch
Cabrillo Beach YC
3
6
23
Red
Cal 20
6
Dave Crockett/Mike Van Dyke
Dave Perry
Alamitos Bay YC
2
6
16
Yellow
Cal 20
82
Scott Birnberg
Karyss Gonzales
Long Beach YC
2
8
10
Blue
Cal 20
438
Don Zinn
Garrett Brown
Alamitos Bay YC
4
9
34
Green
Cal 20
106
Hiroshi Namikawa
Hiromi & Yoshiko Namikawa
Cabrillo Beach YC
5
10
29
Red
Cal 20
101
Tom Pollock
Craig Fletcher
Alamitos Bay YC
3
10
24
Yellow
Cal 20
69
Mike Wood
Ron Wood/Cindy King
Alamitos Bay YC
3
12
9
Green
Rigomortis
Cal 20
9
Doug McLean
Stacie McLean/Randy Smith
Alamitos Bay YC
6
13
36
Blue
Cal 20
37
Paul Anctil
Merle Asper
Alamitos Bay YC
7
14
26
Red
Cal 20
26
Chuck Clay
Geordy Hershman/Kate Wall
Alamitos Bay YC
4
14
20
Yellow
Toadstool
Cal 20
400
Mark Townsend
Robin Townsend/Chuck Hardin
Alamitos Bay YC
4
16
32
Green
Cal 20
11
Freddie Stevens
Fred Stevens/Ryan Davidson
Alamitos Bay YC
8
17
38
Blue
Cal 20
15
Chuck Bricker/Mark Krantz
King Harbor YC
9
18
17
Red
Cal 20
508
John Merchant
Rob Fuller
Alamitos Bay YC
5
18
21
Yellow
Cal 20
663
Matt Rustigian
Dave Butkus.Cathy Schriffer
Little Ship Fleet
5
20
15
Blue
Cal 20
250
David Robertson/Steve Shaw
Alamitos Bay YC
10
21
30
Green
Rubber Dog
Cal 20
56
Keith Ives/Chuck Stevens
ABYC/LBYC
11
22
19
Red
Cal 20
662
Lee Smith
Paul Pierce
Alamitos Bay YC
6
22
14
Yellow
Cal 20
375
Eric Conn
Stacv Conn
Alamitos Bay YC
6
24
35
Green
Cal 20
1559
Brian Lindquist/Kurt Mayol
King Harbor YC
12
25
27
Red
Cal 20
716
Patty Nash
Mark Bernard/Dennis Palmieri
King Harbor YC
7

Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

Cal20 Nationals 2008 V3.htm (33.1 KB)

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CJ

I have started but not finished a Greek Locale yet. The reason is that
I am not sure that it will be useful for the Greek users of Sailwave
as I - and many friends of me - think that the English terms are more
familiar. Anyway if and when I finish it I will send it to you to put
it on the website.

BK

CJ

I have started but not finished a Greek Locale yet. The reason is that
I am not sure that it will be useful for the Greek users of Sailwave
as I - and many friends of me - think that the English terms are more
familiar. Anyway if and when I finish it I will send it to you to put
it on the website.

BK

Due to bad whether our clubs summer series which was supposed to be 6 races
ended up only being 3.

One of the competitors is protesting that if all the events were not run, no
discard is allowed.

Had a look at A2 in Appendix A which suggests to me that there should still
be a discard (or am I reading this wrong)

I also looked at Sailwave and realised that it only starts to discard after
race 3. I could not find any reference to why this should only start on race
3 and was wondering why it is done in this way.

More importantly, I would need to know where it is in the rules so that I
can stick by them.

Regards
T

As I see it we need to look at Appendix A A2 as I see it if you have 3 races you can discard one unless the sailing instructions make some other provision.

Sailwave can replicate this you need to change the scoring profile. that in sailwave mirrors the usual not the rule so change it and score the series.

Come back to be on anything else.

Mike Butterfield IRO IU IJ

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From: Terry

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:28 PM

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [sailwave] Discards Protest

Due to bad whether our clubs summer series which was supposed to be 6 races
ended up only being 3.

One of the competitors is protesting that if all the events were not run, no
discard is allowed.

Had a look at A2 in Appendix A which suggests to me that there should still
be a discard (or am I reading this wrong)

I also looked at Sailwave and realised that it only starts to discard after
race 3. I could not find any reference to why this should only start on race
3 and was wondering why it is done in this way.

More importantly, I would need to know where it is in the rules so that I
can stick by them.

Regards
T

Terry

The number of discards is based upon what your SIs say

If they say nothing, then you are right to apply A2 which says 1 discard (irrespective of how many races are sailed)

A2 does not say when the discard is to be taken so technically, it is taken at race 1.

Best practice is always to have an SI along the lines of App L17.3

This clearly states how many discards & when they are to be taken. This way there is no dispute if the scheduled number of races are not completed

Many short regattas apply the first discard when race 3 is completed, so that if you only complete 2 races, there is no discard

This is possibly why Sailwave defaults to 0,0,1

However, you can change the default to whatever your SIs require

eg 1,1,1 applies one discard after race 1 has been complete

 0,1,1, .......................... after race 2 ........

 0,0,1,........................... after race 3 .......

If you are still not sure, attach a copy of your SIs to your reply & we can advise

Regards

Ralph

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: 13 November 2008 21:28
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Discards Protest

Due to bad whether our clubs summer series which was supposed to be 6 races
ended up only being 3.

One of the competitors is protesting that if all the events were not run, no
discard is allowed.

Had a look at A2 in Appendix A which suggests to me that there should still
be a discard (or am I reading this wrong)

I also looked at Sailwave and realised that it only starts to discard after
race 3. I could not find any reference to why this should only start on race
3 and was wondering why it is done in this way.

More importantly, I would need to know where it is in the rules so that I
can stick by them.

Regards
T