How do I send results to ISAF - Sailwave
This plugin allows you to send race results to ISAF. From Version 2.18 of Sailwave this is now a very interactive process. For Events that you are going to submit results to ISAF, you should start this process as soon as you have the entries to make sure that the ISAF ID’s that…
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If you don’t test it then it will be in Beta for ever - or I could just call it a final release if it makes you happier.
No seriously - I would encourage you to use it now and just check that it all looks sensible and to report anything you think is strange. I issue it as a Beta just to make sure people look at the output and make sure it makes sense rather than accepting it as Gospel. If you are an experienced Sailwave user then we need you to use it. If you have a problem you can revert to the older copy. Without people using it we can never go forward.
Just tried uploading some results direct from Sailwave. The series
has races with multiple starts (different fleets with different
start times and courses). Seem to upload to PYS site OK - appear on
‘Import Data’ page and Race / Start combinations, eg 5 / Slow, look
to have imported OK. However when they have been imported (with the
PYS site) via the little green icon next to the result on the
‘Import Data’ page, and are viewed on the ‘View Race Results’ page,
all the Starts in a given Race seem to be treated as having the same
start! Previously the ‘View Results Page’ would show a separate
line for each Race / Start combination.
Presumably this is yet another RYA enhancement - anyone have a good
work around?
Mike
Lancing SC
I believe this was a change that we made when developing the application. Please could you tell me which club this is for, and which races? I’ll have a look a get a definitive answer.
I know its Lancing SC but which races?
Jon
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On 18 May 2015 at 14:14, Mike Croker mike.croker@phonecoop.coop [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Just tried uploading some results direct from Sailwave. The series
has races with multiple starts (different fleets with different
start times and courses). Seem to upload to PYS site OK - appear on
‘Import Data’ page and Race / Start combinations, eg 5 / Slow, look
to have imported OK. However when they have been imported (with the
PYS site) via the little green icon next to the result on the
‘Import Data’ page, and are viewed on the ‘View Race Results’ page,
all the Starts in a given Race seem to be treated as having the same
start! Previously the ‘View Results Page’ would show a separate
line for each Race / Start combination.
Presumably this is yet another RYA enhancement - anyone have a good
work around?
Mike
Lancing SC
Have you contacted Bas or Debbi at the RYA over this. To be fair
this does not appear to be Sailwave problem as it is doing its bit
by uploading, the next is over to RYA
Debbi facilitated getting a problem I noticed last Thursday fixed.
The problem was to do with multi-lap racing, i.e. Average Lap
Racing, in that the import was not taking account of number of laps.
Fixed very quickly by developers.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 18/05/2015 14:14, Mike Croker
[sailwave] wrote:
mike.croker@phonecoop.coop
Just tried uploading some results direct from Sailwave.
The series has races with multiple starts (different
fleets with different start times and courses). Seem to
upload to PYS site OK - appear on ‘Import Data’ page and
Race / Start combinations, eg 5 / Slow, look to have
imported OK. However when they have been imported (with
the PYS site) via the little green icon next to the result
on the ‘Import Data’ page, and are viewed on the ‘View
Race Results’ page, all the Starts in a given Race seem to
be treated as having the same start! Previously the ‘View
Results Page’ would show a separate line for each Race /
Start combination.
Presumably this is yet another RYA enhancement - anyone
have a good work around?
Mike
Lancing SC
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Hi Jon,
As I thought, we had removed the distinction between Race and Start sometime during the development process. I’ve reinstated this now so Lancing’s results are now split as I hope they would expect.
Please can you ask them to take another look at the website, no need to reload the data.
Kind regards,
Alastair
Jon
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On 18 May 2015 at 14:14, Mike Croker mike.croker@phonecoop.coop [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Just tried uploading some results direct from Sailwave. The series
has races with multiple starts (different fleets with different
start times and courses). Seem to upload to PYS site OK - appear on
‘Import Data’ page and Race / Start combinations, eg 5 / Slow, look
to have imported OK. However when they have been imported (with the
PYS site) via the little green icon next to the result on the
‘Import Data’ page, and are viewed on the ‘View Race Results’ page,
all the Starts in a given Race seem to be treated as having the same
start! Previously the ‘View Results Page’ would show a separate
line for each Race / Start combination.
Presumably this is yet another RYA enhancement - anyone have a good
work around?
Mike
Lancing SC
believe this was a change that we made when
developing the application. Please could you tell me
which club this is for, and which races? I’ll have a
look a get a definitive answer.*
Now my club's login is working again, I've taken a look at my club's PY analysis for the Laser (attached).
This clearly shows the danger of using polynomial curve fitting - the green line is produced by Mk1 eyeball...
Perhaps there should be a suite of curve fitting methods - I'd settle for simple linear interpolation for this one
Mike
Lancing SC
At the same time i have been using the 2.18.5 and it works like a charm. I have coming regatta in finland called downtown race which is junior regatta for optimist, zoom8, laser etc. and have to tell that the new isaf interface xrr plugin works for the most parts like a charm and makes my life lot less stresfull. While checking isaf-id for competitors i did notice that on on couple sailors it wouldn’t get their data at all or sometimes they drew completely different sailors info, dont know if this is bug on my end or at sailing.org end.
i will continue using and collecting data, after the event is over i can give more info about how it works but so far i consider this update pretty epic
Great to hear from you.
The ISAF SailorID checking now built-in to versions of Sailwave
2-18.5+ is just that it is checking functionality and will never be
100% due to sailors! It does the best that Jon has been able to
program in. One may, probably will, have to do some detective work
unfortunately.
The things I have found using it are:
competitors give one the wrong ID
competitors have multiple IDs because they could not remember
what they had created previously. Although ISAF have done a LOT
of work over the last 6 months removing competitors with
multiple IDs, well trying to make sure they have only one.
competitor with wrong gender - I have come across a couple of
females who were in ISAF database as male.
competitors register on ISAF with slightly different name to
that used at an event; things like
use short form of first name for event and on ISAF it is
long form
family name different on event entry to ISAF, usually
Spanish where frequently what we call here in UK double
barrelled, e.g. ALVARES-SANCHES
I even have come across competitors who have SailorID not
related to country they are entering under, for example had
competitor recently who entered using a GBR SailorID but
actually had USA one
The latest functionality is a great assistant and speeds the task up
immensely. Things could be made a lot easier if on-line entry
systems instead of just accepting what a competitor enters, if it is
even asked for, actually did the checking during the entry process.
The functionality is available from ISAF as it is what Jon has
implemented in Sailwave.
At the same time i have been using the 2.18.5 and it
works like a charm. I have coming regatta in finland
called downtown race which is junior regatta for optimist,
zoom8, laser etc. and have to tell that the new isaf
interface xrr plugin works for the most parts like a charm
and makes my life lot less stresfull. While checking
isaf-id for competitors i did notice that on on couple
sailors it wouldn’t get their data at all or sometimes
they drew completely different sailors info, dont know if
this is bug on my end or at sailing.org end.
i will continue using and collecting data, after the
event is over i can give more info about how it works but
so far i consider this update pretty epic
-Petteri Vuorio-
skype: larathlas
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yes i have noticed that many of the competitors don’t really know what isaf id is and are confused with it, naturally i do what i can to help them and to clarify how it works and how to create one.
some of the glitches i noticed were valid but for some reason the plugin didn’t get any info with them but when i manually checked at sailing.org all the info were correct there. i try to capture my screen to duplicate the effect so its more clear what i meant.
funniest so far was that had to ask finnish optimist dinghy parent if her son is female or french her son had two id’s one with female gender and other with male but set as french nationality.
So far its been pretty awesome and cut my workload by couple hours for not having to check every single id manually.
yes i have noticed that many of the competitors don't
really know what isaf id is and are confused with it,
naturally i do what i can to help them and to clarify how
it works and how to create one.
some of the glitches i noticed were valid but for some
reason the plugin didn’t get any info with them but when i
manually checked at sailing.org all the info were correct
there. i try to capture my screen to duplicate the effect
so its more clear what i meant.
funniest so far was that had to ask finnish optimist
dinghy parent if her son is female or french her son
had two id’s one with female gender and other with male
but set as french nationality.
So far its been pretty awesome and cut my workload by
couple hours for not having to check every single id
manually.
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i uploaded my capture on what i meant to youtube, it will take some time for youtube to process it back to 1080p so should be watchable in couple hours. 360p is just too blurry to make out anything from the video.
Thank you very much for your feedback. I have watched some of your video and would like to determine where the issue is appearing. Is it the data from ISAF or my processing of the data. As you have demonstrated the data is correct when you do individual query but a block query in your case seems to have an issue. I am interested if it repeatable does it always happen with the same sailors or is it different sailors sometimes.
I would love to test with your file. If you could email me the sailwave file ( .blw) to jon@sailwave.com - I will let you know where the issue is and hopefully correct it
i uploaded my capture on what i meant to youtube, it will take some time for youtube to process it back to 1080p so should be watchable in couple hours. 360p is just too blurry to make out anything from the video.
