[sailwave] Z Flag Scoring Penalties

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Hi Colin,

[Re-sending as it has not shown up in the group, apologies if it ends up being a duplicate]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but did the nCODE idea ever get implemented?

If not, does the formula idea work? I assume that the formula would go in the Value field in the Scoring penalties dialog but I can’t find a syntax which works for kround(0.2starters;0)

Or is the best approach to wait until the number or entries is know and then set up ZFP2 as Score + N where N is the manually calculated value for the sum of two 20% penalties

Thanks in advance,

Ian

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Colin J

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On 09/02/2011 21:47, Philippe DE TROY wrote:

And in a 13 boat fleet, 20% is 2.6 rounded to 3 and 2 ZFP are 6, not 5.2 rounded to 5.

If this occurs, you can solve the problem by setting codes ZFP40 or ZPF2 as 4 (or 6) and ZFP60 or ZFP3 as 6 (or 9). (see if a code beginning by a digit is accepted, it coud also be 2ZFP, 3ZFP). A formula used with Excel is kround(0.2starters;0), k being 2 for 2 ZFP and 3 for 3 ZFP, see if the syntax of SW accepts this.

Phil

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Townsend

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:43 PM

Subject: RE: [sailwave] Z Flag Scoring Penalties

Huw one has to be cautious with the way Rule 30.2 ZFP works. The last sentence of the rule 30.2 states “If she is similarly identified during a subsequent attempt to start the same race, she shall receive an additional 20% Scoring Penalty.” The penalties are calculated in accordance with Rule 44.3© which in part states “When the sailing instructions do not state the number of places, the number shall be the whole number (rounding 0.5 upward) nearest to 20% of the number of boats entered.” Therefore two 20% penalties are not always the same as one 40% penalty.

In a twelve boat fleet, 20% is 2.4 which when rounded give a 2 point scoring penaly. However when a boat receives two ZFP, two 20% penalties is equal to 4 points, but if you use a 40% penalty instead, 40% is 4.8 which rounds to 5 points, which is wrong.

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Hi Fred,
This is not something that Sailwave would know about, it is something that can be set-up in Sailwave though. You just need to create additional scoring codes ZFP40, ZFP60 etc as ZFP is already defined for an initial starting penalty under RRS 30.2 Z Flag Rule.

In case you are not aware of how to create the additional scoring codes:

  1. click scoring button on toolbar
  2. click scoring codes tab in window that pops up
  3. click ZFP code at bottom of list to highlight then click New button on right hand side an dthis will create a copy of the ZFP code called New ZFP
  4. double click New ZFP to edit
  5. rename code ZFP40 in code field
  6. change value to 40 in Value field
  7. click OK to save
  8. repeat steps 3 to 7 and in step 5 rename code to ZFP60 and change value to 60
  9. click OK in Edit Scoring System window to exit and the save the file.
    If you need you can also repeat steps to create a code for an 80% penalty in the same way etc.
    Save the Sailwave file
    **Note **- these changes are only saved in the Sailwave file you have open unless you have edited a Sailwave you are using as a template for future events.

Hope t his helps.
Kind regards,
Huw

On 09/02/2011 15:43, Colin Jenkins wrote:

Pass on taht Fred - Huw may know - you’;l; have to try it…

Regards,
Colin J
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On 09/02/2011 13:14, Fred Welker wrote:

Colin,
Is Sailwave up to date on the Snipe 20% penalty for premature starters when a Z Flag has been raised? If they do it twice under a Z flag for the same race, it goes to 40%, etc…

Fred Welker
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