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Ralph:

I have the 1.93raw version, but I cant find "Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both options."

???

Martin Bølgen
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:07:11 +0100

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Hi Martin - what a coward you are ;-))<BR>
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For some reason, this latest description now seems very clear!!<BR>
I think the latest versions might eventually be what you are looking for - 1 file for each regatta &<BR>
1 file for the rankings & re-assignment. Suggest you wait for my Help file.<BR>
<BR>
For this weekend<BR>
Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both options.<BR>
Ignore the options in the Finals & Medals races tab<BR>
Set up your starts for red v blue, green v white etc<BR>
<BR>
In the past, we have all got confused between flights automatically assigned by SW (& displayed in<BR>
the race columns) & the flights column.<BR>
The two are NOT the same!!<BR>
To set up the colours for your competitors, the simplest method is to populate the 'fleet' field<BR>
which is then used for setting up race starts.<BR>
<BR>
SW has an automatic seeding option which can be used to populate a field with colours.<BR>
This is a little more involved & I have not written the help notes yet.<BR>
<BR>
I seem to remember your regattas being quite large.<BR>
If this is the case, I would certainly prepare my data in Excel (incl fleet/flight colour) & then<BR>
import into SW - MUCH MUCH quicker<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Ralph<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Martin Bølgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 12:08<BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
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Hi, Ralph!<BR>
<BR>
Well, I'm not sure if I dare to tell... I've tried to explain earlier, and it made a lot of<BR>
confusions..<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, This weekend will consist of 6 races in a round robin system: I.e. the boats stays in the<BR>
same flights.<BR>
<BR>
So, for this weekend Round robin will do.<BR>
<BR>
But, this weekend is also a part of a total ranking. The ranking consists of 4 weekend races. Flight<BR>
assignments for the 2.nd weekend race is based on the results from the 1st weekend race. Also the<BR>
2nd weekend race is a round robin, BUT we merge them to get a TOTAL. This total will be the ranking,<BR>
and it will form the basis for flight assignments for the 3rd weekend race..<BR>
<BR>
Well, if you think we're crazy in Norway, I'm sure Anders do the same in Sweden..<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, the urgent is a round robin!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
regards,<BR>
Martin Bølgen<BR>
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:29 +0100<BR>
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Hi Martin<BR><BR>
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Which flights system are you using?<BR><BR>
Round Robin, where boats stay in same flight throughout the regatta<BR><BR>
AddC where flights are re-assigned each day<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: Martin Bølgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:32<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi, Ralph e.a...<BR><BR>
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We have a upcoming flightrace this weekend. There will be no finals.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
What is the recomended version at the moment?<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards,<BR><BR>
Martin Bølgen<BR><BR>
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:41:40 +0100<BR><BR>
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Thanks Colin<BR><BR>
That's one of my "Actions for Colin"<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
I have been 'wrestling' with how to do Assignments to Finals fleets.<BR><BR>
Current options don't allow for variable numbers, ties go into higher group.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
The solution (after using a lot of grey cells) is DON'T use the Flight<BR><BR>
Assignment tool!<BR><BR>
The finals series is scored separately so we need a field to score on.<BR><BR>
I have used the seeding tool to populate the Flight column which can then be<BR><BR>
amended manually if required.<BR><BR>
My notes will probably ask for some sort of 'Select Competitors' window with<BR><BR>
a move up/down facility but at least for now, we have a practical solution<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:29<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi Ralph<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
FYI - have have added code to specify that at least N discards must be in<BR><BR>
the finals and I have coded the rest of 025. Testing in the next few days.<BR><BR>
Will post installation file sometime this week.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
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Regards,<BR><BR>
Colin<BR><BR>
www.sailwave.com<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On<BR><BR>
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:24<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi Anders & other flights gurus ;-)<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Just to let you know I am in the middle of testing v1.93Sat (& writing<BR><BR>
the Help file) against AddC & Submission 025.<BR><BR>
Colin has fixed a lot of the issues in this area so now is the time to<BR><BR>
test.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Thought you might like to know, to save you or others doing the same<BR><BR>
thing.<BR><BR>
Trying to get it finished in the next week or so before my busy time<BR><BR>
starts<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders@juniorsegling.se]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 10:23<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi Colin,<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
When scoring a series with flights you use "number of boats in the<BR><BR>
biggest start + N" for DNF etc. But when merging diffrerent series with I<BR><BR>
would like to have it "number of boats in the biggest start in this race +<BR><BR>
N".<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
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Possible?<BR><BR>
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Med vänlig hälsning/Regards<BR><BR>
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Martin
I am using 1.93Sat.
Click on scoring systems in the toolbar
Click on edit
Big Events tab is the next to last.

This is where Colin has put all the Fights/AddC options

Regards
Ralph

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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]
Sent: 24 April 2006 13:20
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave]

Ralph:

I have the 1.93raw version, but I cant find "Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick
both options."

???

Martin B�lgen
97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening

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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:07:11 +0100

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Hi Martin - what a coward you are ;-))<BR>
<BR>
For some reason, this latest description now seems very clear!!<BR>
I think the latest versions might eventually be what you are looking for - 1 file for each regatta

&<BR>

1 file for the rankings & re-assignment. Suggest you wait for my Help file.<BR>
<BR>
For this weekend<BR>
Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both options.<BR>
Ignore the options in the Finals & Medals races tab<BR>
Set up your starts for red v blue, green v white etc<BR>
<BR>
In the past, we have all got confused between flights automatically assigned by SW (& displayed

in<BR>

the race columns) & the flights column.<BR>
The two are NOT the same!!<BR>
To set up the colours for your competitors, the simplest method is to populate the 'fleet'

field<BR>

which is then used for setting up race starts.<BR>
<BR>
SW has an automatic seeding option which can be used to populate a field with colours.<BR>
This is a little more involved & I have not written the help notes yet.<BR>
<BR>
I seem to remember your regattas being quite large.<BR>
If this is the case, I would certainly prepare my data in Excel (incl fleet/flight colour) &

then<BR>

import into SW - MUCH MUCH quicker<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Ralph<BR>
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From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 12:08<BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR>
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Hi, Ralph!<BR>
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Well, I'm not sure if I dare to tell... I've tried to explain earlier, and it made a lot of<BR>
confusions..<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, This weekend will consist of 6 races in a round robin system: I.e. the boats stays in

the<BR>

same flights.<BR>
<BR>
So, for this weekend Round robin will do.<BR>
<BR>
But, this weekend is also a part of a total ranking. The ranking consists of 4 weekend races.

Flight<BR>

assignments for the 2.nd weekend race is based on the results from the 1st weekend race. Also

the<BR>

2nd weekend race is a round robin, BUT we merge them to get a TOTAL. This total will be the

ranking,<BR>

and it will form the basis for flight assignments for the 3rd weekend race..<BR>
<BR>
Well, if you think we're crazy in Norway, I'm sure Anders do the same in Sweden..<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, the urgent is a round robin!<BR>
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regards,<BR>
Martin B�lgen<BR>
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------<BR>
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Date:� Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:29 +0100<BR>
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Hi Martin<BR><BR>
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Which flights system are you using?<BR><BR>
Round Robin, where boats stay in same flight throughout the regatta<BR><BR>
AddC where flights are re-assigned each day<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:32<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi, Ralph e.a...<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
We have a upcoming flightrace this weekend. There will be no finals.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
What is the recomended version at the moment?<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards,<BR><BR>
Martin B�lgen<BR><BR>
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------<BR><BR>
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Date:� Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:41:40 +0100<BR><BR>
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Thanks Colin<BR><BR>
That's one of my "Actions for Colin"<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
I have been 'wrestling' with how to do Assignments to Finals fleets.<BR><BR>
Current options don't allow for variable numbers, ties go into higher group.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
The solution (after using a lot of grey cells) is DON'T use the Flight<BR><BR>
Assignment tool!<BR><BR>
The finals series is scored separately so we need a field to score on.<BR><BR>
I have used the seeding tool to populate the Flight column which can then be<BR><BR>
amended manually if required.<BR><BR>
My notes will probably ask for some sort of 'Select Competitors' window with<BR><BR>
a move up/down facility but at least for now, we have a practical solution<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
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��� Hi Anders & other flights gurus ;-)<BR><BR>
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From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Bølgen
Sent: den 24 april 2006 14:20
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave]

Ralph:

I have the 1.93raw version, but I cant find “Open the Big Events tab in
the scoring system and tick both options.”

???

Martin Bølgen

97517102/37251906

Grimstad seilforening

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

From: “Ralph Tingle” rat@attat.com

Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:07:11 +0100

Hi Martin - what a coward you are ;-))


For some reason, this latest description now seems very clear!!

I think the latest versions might eventually be what you are looking for -
1 file for each regatta &

1 file for the rankings & re-assignment. Suggest you wait for my Help
file.


For this weekend

Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both
options.

Ignore the options in the Finals & Medals races tab

Set up your starts for red v blue, green v white etc


In the past, we have all got confused between flights automatically
assigned by SW (& displayed in

the race columns) & the flights column.

The two are NOT the same!!

To set up the colours for your competitors, the simplest method is to
populate the ‘fleet’ field

which is then used for setting up race starts.


SW has an automatic seeding option which can be used to populate a field
with colours.

This is a little more involved & I have not written the help notes yet.


I seem to remember your regattas being quite large.

If this is the case, I would certainly prepare my data in Excel (incl
fleet/flight colour) & then

import into SW - MUCH MUCH quicker


Regards

Ralph




-----Original Message-----

From: Martin Bølgen
[mailto:martin@seilforening.no]

Sent: 24 April 2006 12:08

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [sailwave]




Hi, Ralph!


Well, I’m not sure if I dare to tell… I’ve tried to explain earlier, and
it made a lot of

confusions…


Anyway, This weekend will consist of 6 races in a round robin system: I.e.
the boats stays in the

same flights.


So, for this weekend Round robin will do.


But, this weekend is also a part of a total ranking. The ranking consists
of 4 weekend races. Flight

assignments for the 2.nd weekend race is based on the results from the 1st
weekend race. Also the

2nd weekend race is a round robin, BUT we merge them to get a TOTAL. This
total will be the ranking,

and it will form the basis for flight assignments for the 3rd weekend
race…


Well, if you think we’re crazy in Norway, I’m sure Anders do the same in
Sweden…


Anyway, the urgent is a round robin!



regards,

Martin Bølgen

97517102/37251906

Grimstad seilforening


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

From: “Ralph Tingle” rat@attat.com

Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:29 +0100





Hi Martin



Which flights system are you using?

Round Robin, where boats stay in same flight throughout the
regatta

AddC where flights are re-assigned each day





Regards

Ralph







-----Original Message-----

From: Martin Bølgen
[mailto:martin@seilforening.no]

Sent: 24 April 2006 11:32

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [sailwave]







Hi, Ralph e.a…



We have a upcoming flightrace this weekend. There will be no finals.



What is the recomended version at the moment?



Regards,

Martin Bølgen

97517102/37251906

Grimstad seilforening



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

From: “Ralph Tingle”
rat@attat.com

Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:41:40 +0100



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----------------------------------



Thanks Colin

That’s one of my “Actions for Colin”



I have been ‘wrestling’ with how to do Assignments to Finals
fleets.

Current options don’t allow for variable numbers, ties go into
higher group.



The solution (after using a lot of grey cells) is DON’T use the
Flight

Assignment tool!

The finals series is scored separately so we need a field to score
on.

I have used the seeding tool to populate the Flight column which
can then be

amended manually if required.

My notes will probably ask for some sort of ‘Select Competitors’
window with

a move up/down facility but at least for now, we have a practical
solution





Regards

Ralph



-----Original Message-----

From: Colin Jenkins
[mailto:colin@sailwave.com]

Sent: 24 April 2006 11:29

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [sailwave]





Hi Ralph



FYI - have have added code to specify that at least N
discards must be in

the finals and I have coded the rest of 025. Testing in the
next few days.

Will post installation file sometime this week.





Regards,

Colin

www.sailwave.com





-----Original Message-----

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of Ralph Tingle

Sent: 24 April 2006 11:24

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [sailwave]





Hi Anders & other flights gurus
:wink:



Just to let you know I am in the middle of
testing v1.93Sat (& writing

the Help file) against AddC & Submission
025.

Colin has fixed a lot of the issues in this area
so now is the time to

test.



Thought you might like to know, to save you or
others doing the same

thing.

Trying to get it finished in the next week or so
before my busy time

starts



Regards

Ralph



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 From:  Anders

Landenstad
[mailto:anders@juniorsegling.se]

 Sent: 24 April 2006

10:23

 To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
 Subject:

[sailwave]





 Hi Colin,<BR><BR>







 When scoring a series with flights

you use "number of boats in the

biggest start + N" for DNF etc. But when merging diffrerent
series with I

would like to have it "number of boats in the biggest start in
this race +

N".







 Possible?<BR><BR>







 Med vänlig

hälsning/Regards

________________________________________________

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Landenstad

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