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Thanks again!

But where do I find 193sat ?? I've searched both sailwave.com and Yahoo....

Martin Bølgen
97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening

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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:51:19 +0100

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Martin<BR>
I am using 1.93Sat.<BR>
Click on scoring systems in the toolbar<BR>
Click on edit<BR>
Big Events tab is the next to last.<BR>
<BR>
This is where Colin has put all the Fights/AddC options<BR>
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Regards<BR>
Ralph<BR>
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From: Martin Bølgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 13:20<BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
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Ralph:<BR>
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I have the 1.93raw version, but I cant find "Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick<BR>
both options."<BR>
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???<BR>
<BR>
Martin Bølgen<BR>
97517102/37251906<BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR>
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:07:11 +0100<BR>
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Hi Martin - what a coward you are ;-))<BR><BR>
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For some reason, this latest description now seems very clear!!<BR><BR>
I think the latest versions might eventually be what you are looking for - 1 file for each regatta<BR>

&<BR><BR>

1 file for the rankings & re-assignment. Suggest you wait for my Help file.<BR><BR>
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For this weekend<BR><BR>
Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both options.<BR><BR>
Ignore the options in the Finals & Medals races tab<BR><BR>
Set up your starts for red v blue, green v white etc<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
In the past, we have all got confused between flights automatically assigned by SW (& displayed<BR>

in<BR><BR>

the race columns) & the flights column.<BR><BR>
The two are NOT the same!!<BR><BR>
To set up the colours for your competitors, the simplest method is to populate the 'fleet'<BR>

field<BR><BR>

which is then used for setting up race starts.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
SW has an automatic seeding option which can be used to populate a field with colours.<BR><BR>
This is a little more involved & I have not written the help notes yet.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
I seem to remember your regattas being quite large.<BR><BR>
If this is the case, I would certainly prepare my data in Excel (incl fleet/flight colour) &<BR>

then<BR><BR>

import into SW - MUCH MUCH quicker<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: Martin Bølgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 12:08<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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Hi, Ralph!<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Well, I'm not sure if I dare to tell... I've tried to explain earlier, and it made a lot of<BR><BR>
confusions..<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Anyway, This weekend will consist of 6 races in a round robin system: I.e. the boats stays in<BR>

the<BR><BR>

same flights.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
So, for this weekend Round robin will do.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
But, this weekend is also a part of a total ranking. The ranking consists of 4 weekend races.<BR>

Flight<BR><BR>

assignments for the 2.nd weekend race is based on the results from the 1st weekend race. Also<BR>

the<BR><BR>

2nd weekend race is a round robin, BUT we merge them to get a TOTAL. This total will be the<BR>

ranking,<BR><BR>

and it will form the basis for flight assignments for the 3rd weekend race..<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Well, if you think we're crazy in Norway, I'm sure Anders do the same in Sweden..<BR><BR>
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Anyway, the urgent is a round robin!<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
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regards,<BR><BR>
Martin Bølgen<BR><BR>
97517102/37251906<BR><BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR><BR>
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:29 +0100<BR><BR>
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Hi Martin<BR><BR><BR>
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Which flights system are you using?<BR><BR><BR>
Round Robin, where boats stay in same flight throughout the regatta<BR><BR><BR>
AddC where flights are re-assigned each day<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR><BR>
From: Martin Bølgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:32<BR><BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi, Ralph e.a...<BR><BR><BR>
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We have a upcoming flightrace this weekend. There will be no finals.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
What is the recomended version at the moment?<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Regards,<BR><BR><BR>
Martin Bølgen<BR><BR><BR>
97517102/37251906<BR><BR><BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR><BR><BR>
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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:41:40 +0100<BR><BR><BR>
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Thanks Colin<BR><BR><BR>
That's one of my "Actions for Colin"<BR><BR><BR>
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I have been 'wrestling' with how to do Assignments to Finals fleets.<BR><BR><BR>
Current options don't allow for variable numbers, ties go into higher group.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
The solution (after using a lot of grey cells) is DON'T use the Flight<BR><BR><BR>
Assignment tool!<BR><BR><BR>
The finals series is scored separately so we need a field to score on.<BR><BR><BR>
I have used the seeding tool to populate the Flight column which can then be<BR><BR><BR>
amended manually if required.<BR><BR><BR>
My notes will probably ask for some sort of 'Select Competitors' window with<BR><BR><BR>
a move up/down facility but at least for now, we have a practical solution<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
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Regards<BR><BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
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From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]<BR><BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:29<BR><BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
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FYI - have have added code to specify that at least N discards must be in<BR><BR><BR>
the finals and I have coded the rest of 025. Testing in the next few days.<BR><BR><BR>
Will post installation file sometime this week.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
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Regards,<BR><BR><BR>
Colin<BR><BR><BR>
www.sailwave.com<BR><BR><BR>
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On<BR><BR><BR>
Behalf Of Ralph Tingle<BR><BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:24<BR><BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi Anders & other flights gurus ;-)<BR><BR><BR>
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Just to let you know I am in the middle of testing v1.93Sat (& writing<BR><BR><BR>
the Help file) against AddC & Submission 025.<BR><BR><BR>
Colin has fixed a lot of the issues in this area so now is the time to<BR><BR><BR>
test.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Thought you might like to know, to save you or others doing the same<BR><BR><BR>
thing.<BR><BR><BR>
Trying to get it finished in the next week or so before my busy time<BR><BR><BR>
starts<BR><BR><BR>
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Regards<BR><BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
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From: Anders Landenstad [mailto:anders@juniorsegling.se]<BR><BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 10:23<BR><BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi Colin,<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR>
When scoring a series with flights you use "number of boats in the<BR><BR><BR>
biggest start + N" for DNF etc. But when merging diffrerent series with I<BR><BR><BR>
would like to have it "number of boats in the biggest start in this race +<BR><BR><BR>
N".<BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR>
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Possible?<BR><BR><BR>
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Med vänlig hälsning/Regards<BR><BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Martin B�lgen
Sent: 24 April 2006 13:41
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave]

Thanks again!

But where do I find 193sat ?? I've searched both sailwave.com and Yahoo....

Martin B�lgen
97517102/37251906
Grimstad seilforening

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:51:19 +0100

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Martin<BR>
I am using 1.93Sat.<BR>
Click on scoring systems in the toolbar<BR>
Click on edit<BR>
Big Events tab is the next to last.<BR>
<BR>
This is where Colin has put all the Fights/AddC options<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Ralph<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 13:20<BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR>
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Ralph:<BR>
<BR>
I have the 1.93raw version, but I cant find "Open the Big Events tab in the

scoring system and tick<BR>

both options."<BR>
<BR>
???<BR>
<BR>
Martin B�lgen<BR>
97517102/37251906<BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR>
<BR>
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------<BR>
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Date:� Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:07:11 +0100<BR>
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Hi Martin - what a coward you are ;-))<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
For some reason, this latest description now seems very clear!!<BR><BR>
I think the latest versions might eventually be what you are looking for -

1 file for each regatta<BR>

&<BR><BR>

1 file for the rankings & re-assignment. Suggest you wait for my Help

file.<BR><BR>

<BR><BR>
For this weekend<BR><BR>
Open the Big Events tab in the scoring system and tick both

options.<BR><BR>

Ignore the options in the Finals & Medals races tab<BR><BR>
Set up your starts for red v blue, green v white etc<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
In the past, we have all got confused between flights automatically

assigned by SW (& displayed<BR>

in<BR><BR>

the race columns) & the flights column.<BR><BR>
The two are NOT the same!!<BR><BR>
To set up the colours for your competitors, the simplest method is to

populate the 'fleet'<BR>

field<BR><BR>

which is then used for setting up race starts.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
SW has an automatic seeding option which can be used to populate a field

with colours.<BR><BR>

This is a little more involved & I have not written the help notes

yet.<BR><BR>

<BR><BR>
I seem to remember your regattas being quite large.<BR><BR>
If this is the case, I would certainly prepare my data in Excel (incl

fleet/flight colour) &<BR>

then<BR><BR>

import into SW - MUCH MUCH quicker<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 12:08<BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR>
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<BR><BR>
Hi, Ralph!<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Well, I'm not sure if I dare to tell... I've tried to explain earlier, and

it made a lot of<BR><BR>

confusions..<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
Anyway, This weekend will consist of 6 races in a round robin system: I.e.

the boats stays in<BR>

the<BR><BR>

same flights.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
So, for this weekend Round robin will do.<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
But, this weekend is also a part of a total ranking. The ranking consists

of 4 weekend races.<BR>

Flight<BR><BR>

assignments for the 2.nd weekend race is based on the results from the 1st

weekend race. Also<BR>

the<BR><BR>

2nd weekend race is a round robin, BUT we merge them to get a TOTAL. This

total will be the<BR>

ranking,<BR><BR>

and it will form the basis for flight assignments for the 3rd weekend

race..<BR><BR>

<BR><BR>
Well, if you think we're crazy in Norway, I'm sure Anders do the same in

Sweden..<BR><BR>

<BR><BR>
Anyway, the urgent is a round robin!<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
regards,<BR><BR>
Martin B�lgen<BR><BR>
97517102/37251906<BR><BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------<BR><BR>
From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR>
Date:� Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:29 +0100<BR><BR>
<BR><BR>

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Hi Martin<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Which flights system are you using?<BR><BR><BR>
Round Robin, where boats stay in same flight throughout the

regatta<BR><BR><BR>

AddC where flights are re-assigned each day<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR><BR><BR>
From: Martin B�lgen [mailto:martin@seilforening.no]<BR><BR><BR>
Sent: 24 April 2006 11:32<BR><BR><BR>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Hi, Ralph e.a...<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
We have a upcoming flightrace this weekend. There will be no

finals.<BR><BR><BR>

<BR><BR><BR>
What is the recomended version at the moment?<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Regards,<BR><BR><BR>
Martin B�lgen<BR><BR><BR>
97517102/37251906<BR><BR><BR>
Grimstad seilforening<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
---------- Original

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From: "Ralph Tingle" <rat@attat.com><BR><BR><BR>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
Date:� Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:41:40 +0100<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>

---------- Original

Message ----------------------------------<BR><BR><BR>

<BR><BR><BR>

Thanks Colin<BR><BR><BR>
That's one of my "Actions for Colin"<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
I have been 'wrestling' with how to do Assignments to Finals

fleets.<BR><BR><BR>

Current options don't allow for variable numbers, ties go into higher

group.<BR><BR><BR>

<BR><BR><BR>
The solution (after using a lot of grey cells) is DON'T use the

Flight<BR><BR><BR>

Assignment tool!<BR><BR><BR>
The finals series is scored separately so we need a field to score

on.<BR><BR><BR>

I have used the seeding tool to populate the Flight column which can

then be<BR><BR><BR>

amended manually if required.<BR><BR><BR>
My notes will probably ask for some sort of 'Select Competitors' window

with<BR><BR><BR>

a move up/down facility but at least for now, we have a practical

solution<BR><BR><BR>

<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
Regards<BR><BR><BR>
Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
� -----Original Message-----<BR><BR><BR>
� From: Colin Jenkins [mailto:colin@sailwave.com]<BR><BR><BR>
� Sent: 24 April 2006 11:29<BR><BR><BR>
� To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
� Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
� Hi Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
� FYI - have have added code to specify that at least N discards must be

in<BR><BR><BR>

the finals and I have coded the rest of 025.� Testing in the next few

days.<BR><BR><BR>

Will post installation file sometime this week.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
� Regards,<BR><BR><BR>
� Colin<BR><BR><BR>
www.sailwave.com<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
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��� -----Original Message-----<BR><BR><BR>
��� From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On<BR><BR><BR>

Behalf Of Ralph Tingle<BR><BR><BR>
��� Sent: 24 April 2006 11:24<BR><BR><BR>
��� To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
��� Subject: RE: [sailwave]<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
��� Hi Anders & other flights gurus ;-)<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
��� Just to let you know I am in the middle of testing v1.93Sat (&

writing<BR><BR><BR>

the Help file) against AddC & Submission 025.<BR><BR><BR>
��� Colin has fixed a lot of the issues in this area so now is the time

to<BR><BR><BR>

test.<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
��� Thought you might like to know, to save you or others doing the

same<BR><BR><BR>

thing.<BR><BR><BR>
��� Trying to get it finished in the next week or so before my busy

time<BR><BR><BR>

starts<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
��� Regards<BR><BR><BR>
��� Ralph<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
����� -----Original Message-----<BR><BR><BR>
����� From: Anders Landenstad

[mailto:anders@juniorsegling.se]<BR><BR><BR>

����� Sent: 24 April 2006 10:23<BR><BR><BR>
����� To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR><BR>
����� Subject: [sailwave]<BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR>
����� Hi Colin,<BR><BR><BR>
<BR><BR><BR>
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