Score by fleet -> score by field

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The generalisation of score by fleet to score by field is done and seems to
be working.

Here is open.blw from the examples folder scored across all boats, by club
and by fleet. It looks correct.

http://results.sailwave.com/open1.htm - scored flat
http://results.sailwave.com/open2.htm - by club
http://results.sailwave.com/open3.htm - by fleet

Notice that I've changed to separate tables now when scoring by a field to
make things clearer.

Mike(G), once I add lots of generic fields/columns does this help your
scoring scenarios, i.e. instead of duplicating competitors, give them values
for various fields and score by those fields. When scoring by a particular
field you can specify field-specific rating systems and discard profiles
etc.

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

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From what I understand, I think so.

In our scenario, we would have one boat in IRC, AMS and PHD. To do
this, we would a column for each? We would then score by those
columns - once for each?

Mike

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Mike(G), once I add lots of generic fields/columns does this help

your scoring scenarios

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Hi Mike,

From what I understand, I think so.

In our scenario, we would have one boat in IRC, AMS and PHD. To do
this, we would a column for each? We would then score by those
columns - once for each?

Yes, you would score by field 1 and publish etc, then score by field 2 and
publish...

This is not entirely satisfactory and I'm thinking about another concept or
'shape' development, which is to introduce the concept of a 'competitor
alias'. A competitor alias will automatically inherit the results of the
real competitor that it is an alias of but you'll be able to change fields
in the alias competitor record. Meaning that one person can be in more than
one class/flight/fleet etc. While I find this fairly attractive, it adds
yet another layer of complexity, but at least its optional, like starts and
scoring rules; they can be ignored if not needed.

The other approach would be to add a 'score by these fields and publish'
mechanism, so that the 4 score+publish actions were done by Sailwave and not
by you.

Any thoughts...(anybody)?

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Colin,

Finally got round to giving this a go on version 1.58 (28-Sep-2004).

I was going great until I ran into a problem:

Each of our divisions (see below) have a different rating system. So
for one boat, there can be three ratings.

For example, Cadibarra had the following ratings in the first race of
our Winter Series:
AMS 1.064 (scored 8th in the AMS A division)
IRC 1.208 (scored 9th in the IRC A division)
PHD 1.077 (scored 16th in the PHD A division)

Now, I can't see that I can handle this other than having duplicate
entries for each division.

Or am I missing something?

I tried using the alias. In that case, I entered the boat against
AMS on the Fleet column with the AMS rating. I then created another
competitor aliased on the first but with IRC in Fleet and a different
rating. This looked promising but the rating field got changed
whilst scoring. Also the alias' other fields didn't get pulled
through to the published results.

I must admit, this is a difficult one to handle easily.

Mike

Hi Mike,

> From what I understand, I think so.
>
> In our scenario, we would have one boat in IRC, AMS and PHD. To

do

> this, we would a column for each? We would then score by those
> columns - once for each?
>

Yes, you would score by field 1 and publish etc, then score by

field 2 and

publish...

This is not entirely satisfactory and I'm thinking about another

concept or

'shape' development, which is to introduce the concept of

a 'competitor

alias'. A competitor alias will automatically inherit the results

of the

real competitor that it is an alias of but you'll be able to change

fields

in the alias competitor record. Meaning that one person can be in

more than

one class/flight/fleet etc. While I find this fairly attractive,

it adds

yet another layer of complexity, but at least its optional, like

starts and

scoring rules; they can be ignored if not needed.

The other approach would be to add a 'score by these fields and

publish'

mechanism, so that the 4 score+publish actions were done by

Sailwave and not

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by you.

Any thoughts...(anybody)?

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Hi Mike,

Aliasing should have work exactly the way you expected - I'll lok it. I'l
also going to allow the ratings for every system be loadged in the
competitor record - so then you have two choices: alias and set different
ratings and score in one gulp, or score 4 times and publish the results
separately.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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From: Ocean Racing Club of Victoria Rudder Cup
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Sent: 30 September 2004 13:02
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Score by fleet -> score by field

Colin,

Finally got round to giving this a go on version 1.58 (28-Sep-2004).

I was going great until I ran into a problem:

Each of our divisions (see below) have a different rating system. So
for one boat, there can be three ratings.

For example, Cadibarra had the following ratings in the first race of
our Winter Series:
AMS 1.064 (scored 8th in the AMS A division)
IRC 1.208 (scored 9th in the IRC A division)
PHD 1.077 (scored 16th in the PHD A division)

Now, I can't see that I can handle this other than having duplicate
entries for each division.

Or am I missing something?

I tried using the alias. In that case, I entered the boat against
AMS on the Fleet column with the AMS rating. I then created another
competitor aliased on the first but with IRC in Fleet and a different
rating. This looked promising but the rating field got changed
whilst scoring. Also the alias' other fields didn't get pulled
through to the published results.

I must admit, this is a difficult one to handle easily.

Mike

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> > From what I understand, I think so.
> >
> > In our scenario, we would have one boat in IRC, AMS and PHD. To
do
> > this, we would a column for each? We would then score by those
> > columns - once for each?
> >
>
> Yes, you would score by field 1 and publish etc, then score by
field 2 and
> publish...
>
> This is not entirely satisfactory and I'm thinking about another
concept or
> 'shape' development, which is to introduce the concept of
a 'competitor
> alias'. A competitor alias will automatically inherit the results
of the
> real competitor that it is an alias of but you'll be able to change
fields
> in the alias competitor record. Meaning that one person can be in
more than
> one class/flight/fleet etc. While I find this fairly attractive,
it adds
> yet another layer of complexity, but at least its optional, like
starts and
> scoring rules; they can be ignored if not needed.
>
> The other approach would be to add a 'score by these fields and
publish'
> mechanism, so that the 4 score+publish actions were done by
Sailwave and not
> by you.
>
> Any thoughts...(anybody)?
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
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Hi Mike,

The aliasing and changing rating/fleet value to match the scoring rules
seems to work OK. Can you send me the series you're having trouble with.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ocean Racing Club of Victoria Rudder Cup
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Sent: 30 September 2004 13:02
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Score by fleet -> score by field

Colin,

Finally got round to giving this a go on version 1.58 (28-Sep-2004).

I was going great until I ran into a problem:

Each of our divisions (see below) have a different rating system. So
for one boat, there can be three ratings.

For example, Cadibarra had the following ratings in the first race of
our Winter Series:
AMS 1.064 (scored 8th in the AMS A division)
IRC 1.208 (scored 9th in the IRC A division)
PHD 1.077 (scored 16th in the PHD A division)

Now, I can't see that I can handle this other than having duplicate
entries for each division.

Or am I missing something?

I tried using the alias. In that case, I entered the boat against
AMS on the Fleet column with the AMS rating. I then created another
competitor aliased on the first but with IRC in Fleet and a different
rating. This looked promising but the rating field got changed
whilst scoring. Also the alias' other fields didn't get pulled
through to the published results.

I must admit, this is a difficult one to handle easily.

Mike

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@s...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> > From what I understand, I think so.
> >
> > In our scenario, we would have one boat in IRC, AMS and PHD. To
do
> > this, we would a column for each? We would then score by those
> > columns - once for each?
> >
>
> Yes, you would score by field 1 and publish etc, then score by
field 2 and
> publish...
>
> This is not entirely satisfactory and I'm thinking about another
concept or
> 'shape' development, which is to introduce the concept of
a 'competitor
> alias'. A competitor alias will automatically inherit the results
of the
> real competitor that it is an alias of but you'll be able to change
fields
> in the alias competitor record. Meaning that one person can be in
more than
> one class/flight/fleet etc. While I find this fairly attractive,
it adds
> yet another layer of complexity, but at least its optional, like
starts and
> scoring rules; they can be ignored if not needed.
>
> The other approach would be to add a 'score by these fields and
publish'
> mechanism, so that the 4 score+publish actions were done by
Sailwave and not
> by you.
>
> Any thoughts...(anybody)?
>
> Regards,
> Colin
> www.sailwave.com
>
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