Scoring issue

[Nick]

I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it out.

There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets) I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start..."

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[Huw2]

Nick,

I f you could post the .BLW file I will take a look. Quick

suggestion have you selected in the screen where you set up the
differentt starts that you are using finish time or elapsed time NOT
place.

Kind regards,
Huw

···

On 04/07/2012 15:33, Nick wrote:

          I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and

can’t seem to sort it out.

          There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is

scored on the basis of elapsed time, where there are 6
different fleets, most of which have slightly different
start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into one
sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column.
Since each start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6
races all with the correct start times. I have entered the
finish times for the individual competitors into the
appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have
an issue with this set up. When it tries to score the
event as there are blank entries for the competitors who
did not compete in the other races (fleets) I get the
following error message “Null list of races for
accumulative elapsed times in start…”

          Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to

create a separate sailwave file for each fleet?

          Cheers,

          Nick Cox

[Ian_Day]

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the “Edit Race” tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the “New” and “Edit” buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group. In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I’m not aware of any way of using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can’t seem to sort it out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which have slightly different start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets) I get the following error message “Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start…”

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[Nick]

Hi Huw,

The file is posted in the Files section of this group under 'Marathon 2011.blw'

Cheers,

Nick

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Huw Pearce <huw.pearce@...> wrote:

Nick,

I f you could post the .BLW file I will take a look. Quick suggestion
have you selected in the screen where you set up the differentt starts
that you are using finish time or elapsed time NOT place.

Kind regards,
Huw

On 04/07/2012 15:33, Nick wrote:
>
> I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to
> sort it out.
>
> There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on
> the basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of
> which have slightly different start times. I've entered all the
> competitors into one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate
> column. Since each start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6
> races all with the correct start times. I have entered the finish
> times for the individual competitors into the appropriate race and
> this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue with this set up. When
> it tries to score the event as there are blank entries for the
> competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets) I get the
> following error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed
> times in start..."
>
> Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a
> separate sailwave file for each fleet?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick Cox
>
>

[Nick]

Hi Ian,

I think that the method you describe will work. I had a quick look at the SW file and it seems to be just the ticket. Thanks

Cheers,

Nick

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Day" <ian54day@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
"Edit Race" tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the "New" and "Edit"
buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I'm not aware of any way of
using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it
out.

There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into
one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative
elapsed times in start..."

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[Nick]

Hi Ian,

Well I tried what you suggested and now I'm REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I'm STILL getting the same error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long". Frustrating and NOT fun!

The .blw file is posted in the Files section.

Cheers,

Nick

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Day" <ian54day@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
"Edit Race" tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the "New" and "Edit"
buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I'm not aware of any way of
using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it
out.

There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into
one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative
elapsed times in start..."

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[BassSC]

Nick

The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.

William Carruthers

···

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On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, “Nick” c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@yahoo.ca wrote:

Hi Ian,

Well I tried what you suggested and now I’m REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I’m STILL getting the same error message “Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long”. Frustrating and NOT fun!

The .blw file is posted in the Files section.

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ian Day” <ian54day@…> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
“Edit Race” tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the “New” and “Edit”
buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I’m not aware of any way of
using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can’t seem to sort it
out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
have slightly different start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into
one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
I get the following error message “Null list of races for accumulative
elapsed times in start…”

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[Huw2]

Hi Nick,

Apologies for not responding sooner, lost access to the Internet

access for a while.

I have no looked at your file and made a small change to  the set-up

of the race start information and I can get rid of the the error
message!

Is the information in the attached PDF file what you were hoping

for? If it is I will send through the .BLW and explain what I did.

Kind regards,
Huw

···

On 04/07/2012 17:46, Nick wrote:

Hi Huw,

          The file is posted in the Files section of this group

under ‘Marathon 2011.blw’

          Cheers,

          Nick

          --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com              ,

Huw Pearce wrote:

Nick,

I f you could post the .BLW file I will take a look.
Quick suggestion > have you selected in the screen where you set up the
differentt starts > that you are using finish time or elapsed time NOT
place.

Kind regards,
Huw
On 04/07/2012 15:33, Nick wrote:

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right
now and can’t seem to > > sort it out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing
Club which is scored on > > the basis of elapsed time, where there are 6
different fleets, most of > > which have slightly different start times. I’ve
entered all the > > competitors into one sailwave file with their
fleet in the appropriate > > column. Since each start qualifies as a separate
race, I created 6 > > races all with the correct start times. I have
entered the finish > > times for the individual competitors into the
appropriate race and > > this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When > > it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the > > competitors who did not compete in the other
races (fleets) I get the > > following error message “Null list of races for
accumulative elapsed > > times in start…”

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do
I have to create a > > separate sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

<huw.pearce@…>

[Nick]

William,

I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under 'rank' and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?

Cheers,

Nick

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@...> wrote:

Nick

The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.

William Carruthers
Sent from my iToy

On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@...> wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> Well I tried what you suggested and now I'm REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I'm STILL getting the same error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long". Frustrating and NOT fun!
>
> The .blw file is posted in the Files section.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Day" <ian54day@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> >
> >
> > The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
> > the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
> > "Edit Race" tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
> > have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
> > in the series. (see below)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the "New" and "Edit"
> > buttons beside the start list
> >
> >
> >
> > You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
> > each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
> > tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
> > overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
> > In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
> > basis for calculating the results.
> >
> >
> >
> > If your results are calculated on handicap, I'm not aware of any way of
> > using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
> > the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
> > overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ian Day
> >
> >
> >
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Nick
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
> > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it
> > out.
> >
> > There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
> > basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
> > have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into
> > one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
> > start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
> > start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
> > into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
> > with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
> > entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
> > I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative
> > elapsed times in start..."
> >
> > Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
> > sailwave file for each fleet?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Nick Cox
> >
>
>

[BassSC]

When you have scored the series, click the drop down that says Finishes (place etc) and choose Elapsed times

When you print you’ll get rank and elapsed times

William Carruthers

···

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On 5 Jul 2012, at 22:45, “Nick” c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@yahoo.ca wrote:

William,

I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under ‘rank’ and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@…> wrote:

Nick

The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.

William Carruthers
Sent from my iToy

On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@…> wrote:

Hi Ian,

Well I tried what you suggested and now I’m REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I’m STILL getting the same error message “Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long”. Frustrating and NOT fun!

The .blw file is posted in the Files section.

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ian Day” <ian54day@> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
“Edit Race” tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the “New” and “Edit”
buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I’m not aware of any way of
using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can’t seem to sort it
out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
have slightly different start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into
one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
I get the following error message “Null list of races for accumulative
elapsed times in start…”

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[Nick]

Sorry I'm not following you... please be more clear, what do you mean by the "drop down"?

Nick

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@...> wrote:

When you have scored the series, click the drop down that says Finishes (place etc) and choose Elapsed times

When you print you'll get rank and elapsed times

William Carruthers
Sent from my iToy

On 5 Jul 2012, at 22:45, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@...> wrote:

> William,
>
> I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under 'rank' and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.
> >
> > William Carruthers
> > Sent from my iToy
> >
> > On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ian,
> > >
> > > Well I tried what you suggested and now I'm REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I'm STILL getting the same error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long". Frustrating and NOT fun!
> > >
> > > The .blw file is posted in the Files section.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Day" <ian54day@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Nick,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
> > > > the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
> > > > "Edit Race" tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
> > > > have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
> > > > in the series. (see below)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the "New" and "Edit"
> > > > buttons beside the start list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
> > > > each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
> > > > tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
> > > > overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
> > > > In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
> > > > basis for calculating the results.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If your results are calculated on handicap, I'm not aware of any way of
> > > > using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
> > > > the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
> > > > overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ian Day
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of Nick
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
> > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
> > > > basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
> > > > have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into
> > > > one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
> > > > start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
> > > > start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
> > > > into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
> > > > with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
> > > > entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
> > > > I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative
> > > > elapsed times in start..."
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
> > > > sailwave file for each fleet?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Nick Cox
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[BassSC]

It’s on the menu bar (below user interface) see image below if it appears

Hope this helps

William Carruthers

/)/)/)___/)

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On 7 Jul 2012, at 17:28, “Nick” c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@yahoo.ca wrote:

Sorry I’m not following you… please be more clear, what do you mean by the “drop down”?

Nick
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@…> wrote:

When you have scored the series, click the drop down that says Finishes (place etc) and choose Elapsed times

When you print you’ll get rank and elapsed times

William Carruthers
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On 5 Jul 2012, at 22:45, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@…> wrote:

William,

I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under ‘rank’ and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:

Nick

The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.

William Carruthers
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On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:

Hi Ian,

Well I tried what you suggested and now I’m REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I’m STILL getting the same error message “Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long”. Frustrating and NOT fun!

The .blw file is posted in the Files section.

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ian Day” <ian54day@> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
“Edit Race” tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the “New” and “Edit”
buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I’m not aware of any way of
using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can’t seem to sort it
out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
have slightly different start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into
one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
I get the following error message “Null list of races for accumulative
elapsed times in start…”

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

[rickwhitie3287]

Same problem. getting the same error message. CHanged the entries from all digits, to /, to : and still getting the same frustrating message. I think the new version is just too Ylucky
Immediate help require.., scoreing the 28th Annual Key Largo Steeplechase in teh FL Keys. Please email directly to
rick@catsailor.com
TLHanks, or I will have to d9o this by hand with a computer and then type out the results,. YUCK

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@...> wrote:

It's on the menu bar (below user interface) see image below if it appears

Hope this helps

William Carruthers
Sent from my iPhone
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On 7 Jul 2012, at 17:28, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@...> wrote:

>
> Sorry I'm not following you... please be more clear, what do you mean by the "drop down"?
>
> Nick
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:
> >
> > When you have scored the series, click the drop down that says Finishes (place etc) and choose Elapsed times
> >
> > When you print you'll get rank and elapsed times
> >
> > William Carruthers
> > Sent from my iToy
> >
> > On 5 Jul 2012, at 22:45, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:
> >
> > > William,
> > >
> > > I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under 'rank' and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.
> > > >
> > > > William Carruthers
> > > > Sent from my iToy
> > > >
> > > > On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, "Nick" <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ian,
> > > > >
> > > > > Well I tried what you suggested and now I'm REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I'm STILL getting the same error message "Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long". Frustrating and NOT fun!
> > > > >
> > > > > The .blw file is posted in the Files section.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Day" <ian54day@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Nick,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter
> > > > > > the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the
> > > > > > "Edit Race" tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we
> > > > > > have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race
> > > > > > in the series. (see below)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the "New" and "Edit"
> > > > > > buttons beside the start list
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for
> > > > > > each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can
> > > > > > tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an
> > > > > > overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.
> > > > > > In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the
> > > > > > basis for calculating the results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If your results are calculated on handicap, I'm not aware of any way of
> > > > > > using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for
> > > > > > the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the
> > > > > > overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian Day
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > > > Of Nick
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM
> > > > > > To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can't seem to sort it
> > > > > > out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the
> > > > > > basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which
> > > > > > have slightly different start times. I've entered all the competitors into
> > > > > > one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each
> > > > > > start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct
> > > > > > start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors
> > > > > > into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue
> > > > > > with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank
> > > > > > entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)
> > > > > > I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative
> > > > > > elapsed times in start..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate
> > > > > > sailwave file for each fleet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick Cox
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Eskdale]

Hi, I did reply to rick@catsailor.com just over 20 mins ago but did not get any response.

Jon

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On 16 December 2012 00:02, rickwhitie3287 rickwhitie3287@yahoo.com wrote:

Same problem. getting the same error message. CHanged the entries from all digits, to /, to : and still getting the same frustrating message. I think the new version is just too Ylucky
Immediate help require…, scoreing the 28th Annual Key Largo Steeplechase in teh FL Keys. Please email directly to
rick@catsailor.com
TLHanks, or I will have to d9o this by hand with a computer and then type out the results,. YUCK

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@…> wrote:

It’s on the menu bar (below user interface) see image below if it appears

Hope this helps

William Carruthers

Sent from my iPhone

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On 7 Jul 2012, at 17:28, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@…> wrote:

Sorry I’m not following you… please be more clear, what do you mean by the “drop down”?

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:

When you have scored the series, click the drop down that says Finishes (place etc) and choose Elapsed times

When you print you’ll get rank and elapsed times

William Carruthers

Sent from my iToy

On 5 Jul 2012, at 22:45, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:

William,

I tried what you suggested but just ended up with a redundant set of rankings in the race column that are identical to those under ‘rank’ and the loss of all the finish times. Is it possible to preserve the finish times AND have a ranking when the race is scored this way?

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Bassenthwaite SC <club@> wrote:

Nick

The box adjacent to the accumulated elapsed time box is empty for all starts. If you populate it with 1 (and other races that will be included) it overcomes the error.

William Carruthers

Sent from my iToy

On 5 Jul 2012, at 03:50, “Nick” <c1v1equalsc2v2-sailwave@> wrote:

Hi Ian,

Well I tried what you suggested and now I’m REALLY irritated since after entering all the finish time I’m STILL getting the same error message “Null list of races for accumulative elapsed times in start - SUP - Long”. Frustrating and NOT fun!

The .blw file is posted in the Files section.

Cheers,

Nick

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ian Day” <ian54day@> wrote:

Hi Nick,

The approach used at my Club to score a similar sounding event is to enter

the competitors with the Fleet attribute set as appropriate, then in the

“Edit Race” tab, to define the set of start times for each Fleet, so that we

have several different Fleets, each with its own start time, for each race

in the series. (see below)

You can set up / modify the starts for each fleet with the “New” and “Edit”

buttons beside the start list

You then enter the results using the Sail No wizard, and all the results for

each separate start go into the same race. When you score the race, you can

tell Sailwave either to score each fleet separately, or if you want an

overall result, you can tell it to score all the competitors as one group.

In that case, SW uses the calculated elapsed time for each competitor as the

basis for calculating the results.

If your results are calculated on handicap, I’m not aware of any way of

using a different handicap system for different fleets, but we use PY for

the handicap fleets, and we put in the PY for the One-Design fleets, so the

overall finishing positions are worked out on the basis of the PY handicaps.

Ian Day

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

Of Nick

Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:33 PM

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [sailwave] Scoring issue

I’m having a scoring issue with Sailwave right now and can’t seem to sort it

out.

There’s a race we run at Toronto Windsurfing Club which is scored on the

basis of elapsed time, where there are 6 different fleets, most of which

have slightly different start times. I’ve entered all the competitors into

one sailwave file with their fleet in the appropriate column. Since each

start qualifies as a separate race, I created 6 races all with the correct

start times. I have entered the finish times for the individual competitors

into the appropriate race and this is where Sailwave seems to have an issue

with this set up. When it tries to score the event as there are blank

entries for the competitors who did not compete in the other races (fleets)

I get the following error message "Null list of races for accumulative

elapsed times in start…"

Any suggestions as how to score this race or do I have to create a separate

sailwave file for each fleet?

Cheers,

Nick Cox

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