scoring problem

I'm sure this problem has been asked and addressed before. My apologies for raising it again. We have a situation where, for example, the same helm may helm different classes of boats within a series. The SIs cover this situation, and we score helms, not boats. I have problems trying to get Sailwave to help me out. I thought that 'alias' was the way to go, but my attempts to use aliasing just seem to end up with the original and the alias being scored. I suspect I have misunderstood what an alias is. Assuming I have, how do I get J.Helm in his Vago and J.Helm in a GP14 scored over the series. exporting to Excel and importing back into Sailwave is surely _not_ the solution! remember that as a handicap series I am entering times and not places. In my experience Sailwave is a more reliable calculator of corrected times than race officers.

Sailwave works on the basis that the key field is the Sail Number

In your situation, you could enter the helm in the sail number column & the boat(s) in another

I think you can enter a rating for each race which will overcome the problem of different boats

Not totally sure about aliases but no doubt someone will reply if this is a better solution

Regards

Ralph

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mclark2222
Sent:
13 October 2009 15:22
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] scoring problem

I’m sure this problem has been asked and addressed before. My apologies for raising it again. We have a situation where, for example, the same helm may helm different classes of boats within a series. The SIs cover this situation, and we score helms, not boats. I have problems trying to get Sailwave to help me out. I thought that ‘alias’ was the way to go, but my attempts to use aliasing just seem to end up with the original and the alias being scored. I suspect I have misunderstood what an alias is. Assuming I have, how do I get J.Helm in his Vago and J.Helm in a GP14 scored over the series. exporting to Excel and importing back into Sailwave is surely not the solution! remember that as a handicap series I am entering times and not places. In my experience Sailwave is a more reliable calculator of corrected times than race officers.

Good Afternoon,
Its not too difficult, when you go to enter a time for a race for a competitor that has changed boats do it in normal way and select the ratings tab and chahge the rating to taht for the boat for that race.
The boat class name etc would be wrong but the scoring would be right.
Dave

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----- "mclark2222" <mclark2222@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

I'm sure this problem has been asked and addressed before. My
apologies for raising it again. We have a situation where, for
example, the same helm may helm different classes of boats within a
series. The SIs cover this situation, and we score helms, not boats. I
have problems trying to get Sailwave to help me out. I thought that
'alias' was the way to go, but my attempts to use aliasing just seem
to end up with the original and the alias being scored. I suspect I
have misunderstood what an alias is. Assuming I have, how do I get
J.Helm in his Vago and J.Helm in a GP14 scored over the series.
exporting to Excel and importing back into Sailwave is surely _not_
the solution! remember that as a handicap series I am entering times
and not places. In my experience Sailwave is a more reliable
calculator of corrected times than race officers.

A simplistic method is just to ensure the correct handicap is applied for each race (can be changed per race)

It might be a problem to correctly publish which boat is being sailed when, though. It would be discernable by publishing individual race tables, though for a long series this might be cumbersome.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield, South Africa

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----- Original Message -----

From:
mclark2222

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:21 PM

Subject: [sailwave] scoring problem

I’m sure this problem has been asked and addressed before. My apologies for raising it again. We have a situation where, for example, the same helm may helm different classes of boats within a series. The SIs cover this situation, and we score helms, not boats. I have problems trying to get Sailwave to help me out. I thought that ‘alias’ was the way to go, but my attempts to use aliasing just seem to end up with the original and the alias being scored. I suspect I have misunderstood what an alias is. Assuming I have, how do I get J.Helm in his Vago and J.Helm in a GP14 scored over the series. exporting to Excel and importing back into Sailwave is surely not the solution! remember that as a handicap series I am entering times and not places. In my experience Sailwave is a more reliable calculator of corrected times than race officers.

Is that still true (in that the Sail No wizard can now search on any of the Entry fields, including HelmName)? I now look at it as working on the basis of an 'Entry', with an alias just being a means of sharing a race time between (similar) entries. (For example, to enable results calculation using different handicaps: PY and Personal.)
As others have said, changing the handicap on a 'by race, depending on what boat's sailed' basis would seem to be the only way of doing what the OP wants?
Mike
Lancing SC

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@...> wrote:

Sailwave works on the basis that the key field is the Sail Number