Scoring Round robin qualifying with three flights

Sailors in a recent regatta wanted to have three flights in round robin qualifying series with each flight having the same sailors each race. While this meant that the most any sailor sat out was one race, it presented challenges in scoring. This scheme requires three races to complete a “set” where every sailor has raced all others at least once. Since some sailors are idle during a given race, how do you score them?

Cutting to the chase, would it be possible to add a scoring code which would cause Sailwave to ignore a boat which did not sail?

Secondly, would it be possible to score all boats which did not race to be given this cod instead of DNC?

Only the sailors who raced would be scored. Unscored sailors would be left out of the scoring calculations. Unscored instances also would be left out of throw-out calculations as well.

Here’s a jury-rigged approach used in Sailwave to make the round robin results come out correctly.

  1. Defined DNC to have a value of zero.

  2. By default, all unscored boats were scored DNC. (When scoring, the “Suppress errors” appeared to accomplished this.)

  3. Defined a throw-out pattern to “exclude” the DNC scores

  4. The scoring was to include one throw-out for every five races sailed,

  5. 16 races were sailed by each competitor over the course of 24 round robin qualifying races. The discard profile was 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3

  6. Three throw-outs were calculated for each competitor.

At the end of the qualifying series the sailors were assigned to two fleets. Key here was to have results of the qualifying series carry forward unchanged (i.e. not readjusted to consider only the sailors in his/her fleet.

Some of you may already have figured out a more elegant solution. Please let me know.

Compliments to Colin Jenkins and Jon Eskdale. Of all the scoring programs surveyed, I’m pretty sure Sailwave is the only one that could handle the three-flight scenario today.
NMSC Round Robin 3-flight scored thru 24 and finals thru 13 for 37 races total 2024-11-11-1630.blw (166.3 KB)

Hi Hank,

Pretty impressive and you are right that Sailwave is probably the only scoring system which has the flexibility to manage your scenario.

I was able to resolve a couple items for the idle boats.:

  • Eliminate the “Suppress errors” by creating a start for each race for the boats that are not racing ( ie for race 1 BG1 Flight <>blue AND Flight <> green) )
  • Created a code called “bye” for the boats that are not racing. I changed the DNC code to “bye” and changed the Properties Format to “.” This caused all the DNC scores to be changed to a “.” with zero points. In the edit scoring system dialog highlight “DNS” and select new. I tried to use the blank ( ) , but the p got converted to the number of points. You can use
    as the Format, but it adds an extra line to the results. However   converted to hexadecimal produces:   and will display a blank in the results.
  • Edit the new “NewDNS” code, change the name to DNC and uncheck the property: “This code implies that the boat came to the starting area for the race”
    I noticed that in BG1 there were 6 boats with a DNC score instead of the expected 7. Boat with sail no 06 had a place of 11 , was not in a start (Blue or Green), but still received a finish place of 11. I changed her score in my results to “bye”

My version of the results is attached.

Peter

NMSC Round Robin 3-flight scored thru 24 and finals thru 13 for 37 races total 2024-11-11-1630 PvM edits.blw (167 KB)

Thank you very much Peter. The period [.] worked just fine for the bye code. When I published races 25-37 all lines were single-spaced. The extra vertical spaces all seemed to come from the Helm or Boat names when publishing all races.

Thanks, too, for catching that 06 should have gotten a bye in race BG1.

It turns out that the HTML code for the space didn’t post, the space posted instead. Below is a screen capture that shows you how to use a space for the “bye” code:

Here is a capture of the Format that produces a space:
image

Thanks for filling in the mysterious blanks, I had figured out most except the “
” (let’s see if that posts).

Nope, the < and > did but not the br.

Correction, the quotes did but not the “line break” code they encased.