Hi,
I am new to Sailwave, and just getting to grips with how it all works.
We are a small club and run three 21 race series (Spring, Summer and Autumn) with the best 7 results to count in each series - but if the results are then tied, the 8th, best result (and if still tied then 9th, 10th etc.) best result is then taken into account.
Is there an easy way to build this into the scoring system through the edit scoring system option or any other way?
I’d be grateful for any help.
Many thanks.
Stephen Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Stephen,
Sailwave should just handle things as long as you are using the
standard RRS tie breaking rules.
Kind regards,
Huw
···
On 21/05/2017 12:59, Stephen Hadlow
[sailwave] wrote:
stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi,
I am new to
Sailwave, and just getting to grips with how it all
works.
We are a
small club and run three 21 race series (Spring, Summer
and Autumn) with the best 7 results to count in each
series - but if the results are then tied, the 8th,
best result (and if still tied then 9th, 10th etc.) best
result is then taken into account.
Is
there an easy way to build this into the scoring system
through the edit scoring system option or any other way?
I'd
be grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free. www.avast.com
Thanks Huw,
Just got my head round how the discard system can be modified. Luckily my wife is a maths teacher and has a more logical brain than me!
Stephen
Stephen,
Sailwave should just handle things as long as you are using the
standard RRS tie breaking rules.
Kind regards,
Huw
···
On Sunday, 21 May 2017, 18:22, “Huw Pearce huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk [sailwave]” sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
On 21/05/2017 12:59, Stephen Hadlow stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk [sailwave] wrote:
Hi,
I am new to
Sailwave, and just getting to grips with how it all
works.
We are a
small club and run three 21 race series (Spring, Summer
and Autumn) with the best 7 results to count in each
series - but if the results are then tied, the 8th,
best result (and if still tied then 9th, 10th etc.) best
result is then taken into account.
Is
there an easy way to build this into the scoring system
through the edit scoring system option or any other way?
I'd
be grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free. www.avast.com
Stephen,
Can i ask you to share what you mean by " how the discard system can be modified" Please as i am still learning Sailwave.
Thank You
John
For a 21 race series, if you enter an expression into the discard
profile (after deleting the default series of zeroes, ones) s-r
and then enter 21 for s and 14 for r, the result of this
expression (as can be seen by clicking the Test box) is 7.
I don't think you can automatically set up an increase in the
case of ties, just decrease r to 13, 12 as required.
···
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-21 13:59, Stephen Hadlow
[sailwave] wrote:
Hi,
I am new to
Sailwave, and just getting to grips with how it all
works.
We are a
small club and run three 21 race series (Spring, Summer
and Autumn) with the best 7 results to count in each
series - but if the results are then tied, the 8th,
best result (and if still tied then 9th, 10th etc.) best
result is then taken into account.
Is
there an easy way to build this into the scoring system
through the edit scoring system option or any other way?
I'd
be grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free. www.avast.com
stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi everyone,
Discards and tie breaks are separate and not linked. You set
discard profile independently of tie breaking.
The first level of tie breaking uses non-discard races but if
there is a tie the second level tie break procedure is brought
into play.
A8 SERIES TIES
A8.1 If there is a series-score tie between two or more boats,
each boat’s race scores shall be listed in order of best to worst,
and at the first point(s) where there is a difference the tie
shall be broken in favour of the boat(s) with the best score(s).
No excluded scores shall be used.
The second level of tie break procedure takes into account
discard races.
A8.2 If a tie remains between two or more boats, they shall be
ranked in order of their scores in the last race. Any remaining
ties shall be broken by using the tied boats’ scores in the
next-to-last race and so on until all ties are broken. These
scores shall be used even if some of them are excluded scores.
Sailboards have a different tie break procedure which is
documented in RRS Appendix B
Kind regards,
Huw
···
On 23/05/2017 18:41, Malcolm Osborne
[sailwave] wrote:
malcolmo@telkomsa.net
For a 21 race series, if you enter an expression into the
discard profile (after deleting the default series of
zeroes, ones) s-r and then enter 21 for s and 14 for r,
the result of this expression (as can be seen by clicking
the Test box) is 7.
I don't think you can automatically set up an increase in
the case of ties, just decrease r to 13, 12 as required.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-21 13:59, Stephen
Hadlow [sailwave] wrote:
stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi,
I am
new to Sailwave, and just getting to grips with how
it all works.
We are
a small club and run three 21 race series (Spring,
Summer and Autumn) with the best 7 results to count
in each series - but if the results are then tied,
the 8th, best result (and if still tied then 9th,
10th etc.) best result is then taken into account.
Is there an easy way to build this into the
scoring system through the edit scoring system
option or any other way?
I'd be
grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free.
www.avast.com
The Jumbles S.C. SI indicates a non-standard method of tie
breaking. For this case, should the default series tie options be
unchecked?
···
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-23 20:56, Huw Pearce
[sailwave] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Discards and tie breaks are separate and not linked. You
set discard profile independently of tie breaking.
The first level of tie breaking uses non-discard races
but if there is a tie the second level tie break procedure
is brought into play.
A8 SERIES TIES
A8.1 If there is a series-score tie between two or more
boats, each boat’s race scores shall be listed in order of
best to worst, and at the first point(s) where there is a
difference the tie shall be broken in favour of the
boat(s) with the best score(s). No excluded scores shall
be used.
The second level of tie break procedure takes into
account discard races.
A8.2 If a tie remains between two or more boats, they
shall be ranked in order of their scores in the last race.
Any remaining ties shall be broken by using the tied
boats’ scores in the next-to-last race and so on until all
ties are broken. These scores shall be used even if some
of them are excluded scores.
Sailboards have a different tie break procedure which is
documented in RRS Appendix B
Kind regards,
Huw
huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk
On 23/05/2017 18:41, Malcolm
Osborne [sailwave] wrote:
malcolmo@telkomsa.net
For a 21 race series, if you enter an expression into
the discard profile (after deleting the default series
of zeroes, ones) s-r and then enter 21 for s and 14
for r, the result of this expression (as can be seen
by clicking the Test box) is 7.
I don't think you can automatically set up an
increase in the case of ties, just decrease r to 13,
12 as required.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-21 13:59,
Stephen Hadlow [sailwave] wrote:
stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi,
I
am new to Sailwave, and just getting to grips
with how it all works.
We
are a small club and run three 21 race series
(Spring, Summer and Autumn) with the best 7
results to count in each series - but if the
results are then tied, the 8th, best result (and
if still tied then 9th, 10th etc.) best result
is then taken into account.
Is
there an easy way to build this into the scoring
system through the edit scoring system option or
any other way?
I'd be
grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free. www.avast.com
Hi Malcolm,
Thanks for pointing out possible non-standard tie break
procedure. I have had a look at t he Jumbles SC web site and could
not find a copy of SI’s. Perhaps the original poster could let us
have a copy to see what they say.
I am not sure what Sailwave will do if you uncheck the tie break
procedures as I have never had circumstance that uses anything
other than standard RRS Appendix A 8 or for Sailboard Appendix B.
Kind regards,
Huw
···
On 23/05/2017 23:01, Malcolm Osborne
[sailwave] wrote:
malcolmo@telkomsa.net
The Jumbles S.C. SI indicates a non-standard method of
tie breaking. For this case, should the default series tie
options be unchecked?
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-23 20:56, Huw Pearce
[sailwave] wrote:
huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk
Hi everyone,
Discards and tie breaks are separate and not linked.
You set discard profile independently of tie breaking.
The first level of tie breaking uses non-discard
races but if there is a tie the second level tie break
procedure is brought into play.
A8 SERIES TIES
A8.1 If there is a series-score tie between two or
more boats, each boat’s race scores shall be listed in
order of best to worst, and at the first point(s)
where there is a difference the tie shall be broken in
favour of the boat(s) with the best score(s). No
excluded scores shall be used.
The second level of tie break procedure takes into
account discard races.
A8.2 If a tie remains between two or more boats, they
shall be ranked in order of their scores in the last
race. Any remaining ties shall be broken by using the
tied boats’ scores in the next-to-last race and so on
until all ties are broken. These scores shall be used
even if some of them are excluded scores.
Sailboards have a different tie break procedure which
is documented in RRS Appendix B
Kind regards,
Huw
On 23/05/2017 18:41,
Malcolm Osborne [sailwave] wrote:
malcolmo@telkomsa.net
For a 21 race series, if you enter an expression
into the discard profile (after deleting the
default series of zeroes, ones) s-r and then enter
21 for s and 14 for r, the result of this
expression (as can be seen by clicking the Test
box) is 7.
I don't think you can automatically set up an
increase in the case of ties, just decrease r to
13, 12 as required.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2017-05-21 13:59,
Stephen Hadlow [sailwave] wrote:
stephen_hadlow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi,
I
am new to Sailwave, and just getting to
grips with how it all works.
We
are a small club and run three 21 race
series (Spring, Summer and Autumn) with the
best 7 results to count in each series -
but if the results are then tied, the 8th,
best result (and if still tied then 9th,
10th etc.) best result is then taken into
account.
Is
there an easy way to build this into the
scoring system through the edit scoring
system option or any other way?
I'd
be grateful for any help.
Many
thanks.
Stephen
Hadlow (Jumbles SC)
Virus-free.
www.avast.com