Sept 28-2 version print problems

Colin:
I tried version 2, I printed a series by fleet.
The problem is that the each table will be a different width so that
the printout as a whole does not look very good. I reset each table
to be 100% width and now the tables are all the same width, but the
colums are all different widths due to the lengths of say the boat
names.
Fleet "PHRF 1" has some long boat names and "PHRF 2" has all short
boat names. The colums will not be the same width.

The old way with a common table for all of the fleets provided a good
looking printout or web page. The new system of a table for each
fleet does not look very good without a lot of manual tweaking.

I hope that you can see an easy solution to this.

Yours
John Crawley

Hi John,

I think it's a point of view thing. Personally, because each table is a
completely separate entity, I don't think it matters that the columns do not
align or that the tables widths are different. However, it is something I
have unilaterally changed without getting feedback from users so I'll sort
something out. There is still this very real issue about race tables
though - if one fleet is one-design by place and another is handicap by
start/finish time, they require a different set of column headings. I know
you record start times for every fleet, so this is not an issue for you, but
it is an issue for others; hence the change... However the change was a
solution that was easy for me rather than necessarily better to the user, so
I'll revisit it.

Anybody else got any opinions on the one table with dividers or separate
tables issue?

Perhaps separate tables look better left justified, e.g.

http://www.ukwindsurfing.com/results/2004/sl4_poole.asp

I think they do...

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

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Subject: [sailwave] Sept 28-2 version print problems

Colin:
I tried version 2, I printed a series by fleet.
The problem is that the each table will be a different width so that
the printout as a whole does not look very good. I reset each table
to be 100% width and now the tables are all the same width, but the
colums are all different widths due to the lengths of say the boat
names.
Fleet "PHRF 1" has some long boat names and "PHRF 2" has all short
boat names. The colums will not be the same width.

The old way with a common table for all of the fleets provided a good
looking printout or web page. The new system of a table for each
fleet does not look very good without a lot of manual tweaking.

I hope that you can see an easy solution to this.

Yours
John Crawley

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Hi John,

Further to my previous email I should also say that I want to do significant
work on publishing so that it's much more flexible, this will be after 1.58
is released. Improved publishing has been on the todo list for long enough
now...

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

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Sent: 30 September 2004 04:51
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Subject: [sailwave] Sept 28-2 version print problems

Colin:
I tried version 2, I printed a series by fleet.
The problem is that the each table will be a different width so that
the printout as a whole does not look very good. I reset each table
to be 100% width and now the tables are all the same width, but the
colums are all different widths due to the lengths of say the boat
names.
Fleet "PHRF 1" has some long boat names and "PHRF 2" has all short
boat names. The colums will not be the same width.

The old way with a common table for all of the fleets provided a good
looking printout or web page. The new system of a table for each
fleet does not look very good without a lot of manual tweaking.

I hope that you can see an easy solution to this.

Yours
John Crawley

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Hi,

I have reincarnated (rewritten in fact) the ability to merge all field
values into separate parts of one table when publishing. It's optional, the
default is to *not* use separate tables; i.e. as it used to be. Both
versions still need the start information; I'll do that this afternoon.

Here is an example of two fleets scored by fleet published with and without
separate tables:-

one table: http://results.sailwave.com/johnc.htm
sep tabls: http://results.sailwave.com/johnc2.htm

There are some important differences:-

� The hyperlinks on the one table version point to the one race table - HTML
does not allow you to point into a table (consistently across N browsers)
(as far as I can tell).

� If some values of the scored field (e.g. fleets) are scored as one design
by place and some as elapsed etc, the place table sections are padded out
with blank columns to make it all work OK. Also in this case the subheading
will reflect the table section; hence the inclusion of sub-headings unlike
earlier verions which used to get it wrong.

� Similar to the above but with races, if some 'fleets' dont sail and some
do, the one-table approachws every race in which at least one 'fleet'
sailed.

I think the one-table layout is nicer than it used to be - the column
headings in each section clarify things and are useful in mega long tables
like this (via John C):-

http://results.sailwave.com/johnc3.htm

Notice that the race section heading rows accuractly reflect the scoring of
the 'fleet' - "T-Bird" having a single Place column in it's heading section
for example.

Which brings me to two questions:-

Would it be useful ti preface the tables with an index of what's on the
page, so you can jump straight to something; probably most useful for
separate tables?

Would it be useful to rearrange the order that 'fleets' are published via
up/down attows on the list of 'fleets' when publishing, (Huw)?

I'll upload a new beta before I go to the pub...

Regards,
Colin J
www.sailwave.com

PS: 'fleet' is just an example; it could be club, flight, nat etc.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jcc2jcc [mailto:johncrawley@sympatico.ca]
Sent: 30 September 2004 04:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Sept 28-2 version print problems

Colin:
I tried version 2, I printed a series by fleet.
The problem is that the each table will be a different width so that
the printout as a whole does not look very good. I reset each table
to be 100% width and now the tables are all the same width, but the
colums are all different widths due to the lengths of say the boat
names.
Fleet "PHRF 1" has some long boat names and "PHRF 2" has all short
boat names. The colums will not be the same width.

The old way with a common table for all of the fleets provided a good
looking printout or web page. The new system of a table for each
fleet does not look very good without a lot of manual tweaking.

I hope that you can see an easy solution to this.

Yours
John Crawley

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