In a 4 race series with one discard one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
points. When scoring Sailwave shows the boat with 2 wins as second to
the boat with only 1 win. Why is this & can it be rectified?
Regards,
Lionel
Lionel,
I am assuming the pattern of race results below for each boat as you have said the second boat has “2 3rds” which would not cause a problem as then it would score, assuming the fourth result was the discard, 7 points net 
Boat 1 1,1,2,2 with one discard equals 5 points net
Boat 2 1,2,2,3 with one discard equals 5 points net
On the most first procedure Boat one wins which is what Sailwave is saying as per Appendix A 8.1
Kind regards,
Huw
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** lionel_rigby
Sent: 29 September 2007 16:30
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] series scoring
In a 4 race series with one discard one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
3rds, giving a total of 5 points.A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
points. When scoring Sailwave shows the boat with 2 wins as second to
the boat with only 1 win. Why is this & can it be rectified?Regards,
Lionel
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In a 4 race series with one discard
So 3 races to count, hence:
one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
Agree: scoring race points are 1, 1 and 3 => total of 5
A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
points.
Disagree: How does 1, 3, 3 => total of 5?!? What are the totals in
the points column? What do you have set for a DNC? (Assuming that the
second boat only sailed 3 races.)
CONFUSED!!!
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "lionel_rigby" <lionel.rigby@...> wrote:
Apologies,
I meant to write that the boat given by sailwave as first overall
had scored 2 2nds & a first, ie 5 ponts. He did not race one of the
4 races and thus scored dns being awarded 47 points.
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "lionel_rigby" <lionel.rigby@>
wrote:
>
> In a 4 race series with one discardSo 3 races to count, hence:
> one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
> 3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
Agree: scoring race points are 1, 1 and 3 => total of 5>
> A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
> points.
Disagree: How does 1, 3, 3 => total of 5?!? What are the totals in
the points column? What do you have set for a DNC? (Assuming that
the
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Croker" <mdcroker@...> wrote:
second boat only sailed 3 races.)
CONFUSED!!!
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
Hello Huw,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2 2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for you to look at.
Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From:
Huw Pearce
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] series scoring
Lionel,
I am assuming the pattern of race results below for each boat as you have said the second boat has “2 3rds” which would not cause a problem as then it would score, assuming the fourth result was the discard, 7 points net
Boat 1 1,1,2,2 with one discard equals 5 points net
Boat 2 1,2,2,3 with one discard equals 5 points net
On the most first procedure Boat one wins which is what Sailwave is saying as per Appendix A 8.1
Kind regards,
Huw
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From:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** lionel_rigby
Sent: 29 September 2007 16:30
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] series scoring
In a 4 race series with one discard one boat has scored 2 wins and 23rds, giving a total of 5 points.
A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5 points. When scoring Sailwave shows the boat with 2 wins as second to the boat with only 1 win. Why is this & can it be rectified?Regards,
Lionel
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Hello Mike,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2 2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for you to look at.
Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From:
Mike Croker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: series scoring
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “lionel_rigby” <lionel.rigby@…> wrote:
In a 4 race series with one discard
So 3 races to count, hence:
one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
Agree: scoring race points are 1, 1 and 3 => total of 5A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
points.
Disagree: How does 1, 3, 3 => total of 5?!? What are the totals in
the points column? What do you have set for a DNC? (Assuming that the
second boat only sailed 3 races.)CONFUSED!!!
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
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Hi Lionel
Just had a look at your file & couldn’t find anything wrong, so I clicked on score series again & guess what - it worked with the correct results on tie breaks!!!
What is interesting is that if you look at the ranking column in your original file, the rankings are correct but in a different order
This normally occurs if you score a series but then re-sort the series on another column
In your file, the Nett column has a superscript 1 in the column title
This shows that the last sort to be carried out was on this column
When I do the same, the tied results are in the wrong order (as per your original file)
If you score the series again, everything is correct & the Ranking column has a superscript 1, showing that this was the last sort
Are you by any chance clicking on the Nett column, thinking that this is “scoring the series”???
It is always good practice in SW to click on the “score series” button to get the final series results, especially if you have been looking through the data
Hope this solves your problem
Regards
Ralph
From: Lionel Rigby [mailto:lionel.rigby@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 30 September 2007 09:42
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] series scoring
Hello Huw,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2 2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for you to look at.
Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From: Huw Pearce
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] series scoring
Lionel,
I am assuming the pattern of race results below for each boat as you have said the second boat has “2 3rds” which would not cause a problem as then it would score, assuming the fourth result was the discard, 7 points net
Boat 1 1,1,2,2 with one discard equals 5 points net
Boat 2 1,2,2,3 with one discard equals 5 points net
On the most first procedure Boat one wins which is what Sailwave is saying as per Appendix A 8.1
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** lionel_rigby
Sent: 29 September 2007 16:30
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] series scoring
In a 4 race series with one discard one boat has scored 2 wins and 23rds, giving a total of 5 points.
A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5 points. When scoring Sailwave shows the boat with 2 wins as second to the boat with only 1 win. Why is this & can it be rectified?Regards,
Lionel
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Hi Lionel
The problem with your file is, that it is sorted by the Nett-colum...
If you sort it by the Rank-colum everything is in order.
Then "Midtnight Express" is in front, where it is supposed to be
Remember to sort by Rank, but when you press the [score series]
button, Sailwave automatic does that, and you have a finished list to
publish/print in the correct order.
Best regards
Steen Hansen
Denmark
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Lionel Rigby" <lionel.rigby@...>
wrote:
Hello Mike,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to
sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2
2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was
counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for
you to look at.
Regards,
Lionel
From: Mike Croker
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: series scoring--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "lionel_rigby" <lionel.rigby@>
wrote:
>
> In a 4 race series with one discardSo 3 races to count, hence:
> one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
> 3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
Agree: scoring race points are 1, 1 and 3 => total of 5>
> A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
> points.
Disagree: How does 1, 3, 3 => total of 5?!? What are the totals in
the points column? What do you have set for a DNC? (Assuming that
the
----- Original Message -----
second boat only sailed 3 races.)CONFUSED!!!
Mike Croker
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Hi Mike,
Thanks very much for that. I understand it now.
Regards,
Lionel
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From:
steengrhansen
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:30 AM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: series scoring
Hi Lionel
The problem with your file is, that it is sorted by the Nett-colum…
If you sort it by the Rank-colum everything is in order.
Then “Midtnight Express” is in front, where it is supposed to beRemember to sort by Rank, but when you press the [score series]
button, Sailwave automatic does that, and you have a finished list to
publish/print in the correct order.Best regards
Steen Hansen
Denmark— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Lionel Rigby” <lionel.rigby@…>
wrote:Hello Mike,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to
sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2
2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was
counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for
you to look at.Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Croker
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: series scoring— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “lionel_rigby” <lionel.rigby@>
wrote:In a 4 race series with one discard
So 3 races to count, hence:
one boat has scored 2 wins and 2
3rds, giving a total of 5 points.
Agree: scoring race points are 1, 1 and 3 => total of 5A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5
points.
Disagree: How does 1, 3, 3 => total of 5?!? What are the totals in
the points column? What do you have set for a DNC? (Assuming that
the
second boat only sailed 3 races.)CONFUSED!!!
Mike Croker
Lancing SC
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Hi Ralph,
I have been very impressed with all the help that has been coming in over this one, so thankyou very much for your assistance. We have as a group at our Club been using sailwave for the whole season & in the whole we get on ok with it. There is one other problem that we get. We find that if we create a new series, and enter the type of boat against the helm, the PY number given doesn’t seem to work at all & any times that we enter are not modified. We have found that we have had to highlight the PY box & enter manually the PY for that boat. After doing this all seems to work well. Any suggestions?
Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ralph Tingle
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] series scoring
Hi Lionel
Just had a look at your file & couldn’t find anything wrong, so I clicked on score series again & guess what - it worked with the correct results on tie breaks!!!
What is interesting is that if you look at the ranking column in your original file, the rankings are correct but in a different order
This normally occurs if you score a series but then re-sort the series on another column
In your file, the Nett column has a superscript 1 in the column title
This shows that the last sort to be carried out was on this column
When I do the same, the tied results are in the wrong order (as per your original file)
If you score the series again, everything is correct & the Ranking column has a superscript 1, showing that this was the last sort
Are you by any chance clicking on the Nett column, thinking that this is “scoring the series”???
It is always good practice in SW to click on the “score series” button to get the final series results, especially if you have been looking through the data
Hope this solves your problem
Regards
Ralph
From: Lionel Rigby [mailto:lionel.rigby@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 30 September 2007 09:42
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] series scoring
Hello Huw,
I wrote the scores down wrong. I have resent the question to sailwave. The boat that sailwave scored as first actually scored 2 2nds and a win ie 5 pts. He did not race the 4th race which was counted as DNS & was awarded 47 points. I have attached the file for you to look at.
Regards,
Lionel
----- Original Message -----
From: Huw Pearce
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] series scoring
Lionel,
I am assuming the pattern of race results below for each boat as you have said the second boat has "2 3rds" which would not cause a problem as then it would score, assuming the fourth result was the discard, 7 points net :-)
Boat 1 1,1,2,2 with one discard equals 5 points net
Boat 2 1,2,2,3 with one discard equals 5 points net
On the most first procedure Boat one wins which is what Sailwave is saying as per Appendix A 8.1
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From:
sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** lionel_rigby
Sent: 29 September 2007 16:30
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] series scoring
In a 4 race series with one discard one boat has scored 2 wins and 23rds, giving a total of 5 points.
A second boat has scored 1 win and 2 3rds, giving a total of 5 points. When scoring Sailwave shows the boat with 2 wins as second to the boat with only 1 win. Why is this & can it be rectified?Regards,
Lionel
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