Hi Maria (and SUG followers),
Ignore all my previous postings on solutions to the issues you
raised.
I have been doing some more work on the scoring of medallists and
non-medallists in the medal race because I felt the previous
solution was difficult. I have a simpler solution I think.
Apologies for my previous postings which were complicated and
done as I found things. I must now write this solution up and ask
Jon to post on the Sailwave web site. I also have to finish
writing up the steps for making sure that Sailwave can import
accented characters correctly as I said I would do on the Sailwave
Facebook page.
Also having looked further at the results on the Internet, the two
sets of results that seem to have the most difficulty is the Men
Open Trophy and the Youth Men Open Trophy. For these two sets of
results there are Q-series & F-series with a medal race.
The simpler solution I have for you is:
-
Right click in the medal race column header and select Edit
race
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Have a start set-up for the Gold Fleet (including medallists)
and a start for the Silver Fleet
- Click the Scoring system button the toolbar
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Click the medal race tab and make sure the non-medallist
column does not have any of the boxes checked
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Click the Fleets tab in the Scoring system window
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Click New button
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Click the Edit button
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In the box at the top change ‘Edit me’ to Silver
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Now click the Medal race tab
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Down the bottom left remove the tick alongside the word Inherit
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Now remove the tick alongside the words * The event contains
a medal race*
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Click OK
-
Click OK
By setting up a difference from the event default for the Silver
Fleet the top 10 in this fleet will not be considered medallists,
so will not get scored double points.
When entering Medal Race for the Gold Fleet non-medallists using the
Sail Number Wizard after entering the sail number of the boat that
finished first in the non-medallists put their finish position in as
-
After this continue entering sail numbers in the order they
finished and Sailwave will automatically increment the finish
position by one.
Now score the series and the medallists in Gold fleet should be the
first 10 and scored double points with the first non-medallist being
scored 11 points and so on. The Silver Fleet will be scored for the
‘medal’ race 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.
As I said previously to produce a file which has the competitors
ranked 1 to N, rather than Gold 1 to NG and Silver 1 to NS you use
the Tools | Seed competitor field facility.
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In the Competitor field to seed select 'Rank ’ from the
drop down list
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Click ‘Select competitors’ button
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Set-up Fleet= Silver for the competitors
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Set the 'Start a**t ’ value to one more than the
last ranked competitor in the Gold Fleet.
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Click ‘Seed’ button
In case you were not aware Sailwave has functionality for
uploading the results to World Sailing/ISAF and is found at '* Plugins
ISAF Interface XRR*’
For series without Q-series and F-series but having a medal race,
the solution for scoring the top 10 double points and the rest
starting at 11 for the medal race:
- Click ‘Scoring series’ on the toolbar
- Click the ‘Medal race’ tab
- Make sure the non-medallist column has no tick marks
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Right click the column header box for the Medal race and
select Edit race
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Make sure that there is only one start and all competitors are
included
- Enter the medallist finish order using the Sail Number Wizard
-
Enter the non-medallists in finishing order and check the
first entry is given 11th position and the second entry is given
12th and so on
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Once all results entered score series and for medal race
medallists should be scored double points and the first
non-medallist should have 11 points
Maria I would appreciate final copies of all the the Sailwave
files so I can double check these instructions.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 10/07/2016 14:12, Huw Pearce [sailwave] wrote:
huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk
Hi Maria,
I have a solution to the 10point addition for
non-medallists as defined in SI20.8. The solution involves
creating a new scoring code and then editing the result
for each Gold Fleet non-medallist and assigning the new
scoring code.
Once the scoring code has been given to each appropriate
competitor, i.e. Gold Fleet non-medallists [23 competitors
in your case], re-score the series.
There is still a possible issue in that if competitors have
been given scoring penalties for this race. In this case an
additional new scoring will need creating to take account of
the value allocated and the points offset of 10 required. So
for example if a code of SCP5 is given to a competitor in
this race, you will need to create a a new scoring code
MSCP15 [the standard 5 points race penalty plus the 10 point
offset].
I hope this makes sense.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 10/07/2016 13:37, Huw Pearce
[sailwave] wrote:
huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk
Hi Maria,
I have been doing some tests with the 2015 RSX Senior
Mens Europeans file and I can get very close to what
you want except giving 11th place etc an extra
10 points. I actually question this as it impacts on
possible discard and it therefore can affect overall
rank, but as it is in the SI’s I will continue working
and see if it is possible.
The final request of producing a regatta rank 1-65
requires a little bit of work with a copy of the final
results. The trick is to use the ‘* Tools | Seed
competitor field*’ facility.
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Select Rank in ‘Competitor field to seed’
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Click ‘Select competitors’
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Select 'Fleet ’ from the first drop down
list box
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Move to the empty box after the = sign on the same
line and select ‘Silver’ from drop down list
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Type 33 into ‘Start at’ box
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Click ‘Seed’ button
Kind regards,
Huw
On 10/07/2016 11:37, Huw
Pearce [sailwave] wrote:
huw.pearce@bcs.org.uk
Hi Maria,
This is all possible as I have done the scoring
for this event twice in the past but it needs some
work, it is not just a matter of it being
something standard.
If you care to send me the Sailwave.BLW, I will
go through it and set things up and then write up
what I have done for you.
Andrus Poksi of the RSX Class knows me quite
well.
Kind regards,
Huw
On 10/07/16 10:44,
‘Maria Silén’ [sailwave] wrote:
mimma.silen@gmail.com
Hi,
I’ve been involved in the scoring with the
Open Europeans in RS:X in Helsinki. On the
last day of racing we encountered huge
problems with the scoring. I have been in
contact with experienced users of Sailwave and
there hasn’t been a solution to the problem,
yet. I need to get the Sailwave files correct
in order to upload them to World Sailing and
of course to present the competitors proper
scoring lists.
The problem is with a split fleet. The setting
is as follows:
- split fleet in yellow and blue for
qualifiers ( ended up to be 4 starts)
- split fleet in gold and silver for final
series (ended up to be 6 starts)
- final day with medalrace for top-10 and
finalrace for the rest in gold and silver
fleet
- discard profile:
1-3 races - no discard
4-10 races - one worst score discarded
11 or more - the worst score in qualifiers and
the worst score in final series
- for those not assigned to medal race are
assigned to an additional open series race
where the first scores 11 points, the second
12 points and so on
- the medal race scores double, the medal race
is not discardable
In sailwave I need to get 1 discard set for
top-10, which cannot be the medal race. For
the rest of the competitors I need to get two
discards (1 in qualifier and 1 in final
series). Additionally I haven’t found a way to
get the extra 10 points for competiors ranked
11th or more. In the end I would additionally
want the competiors listed as 1-65 overall,
instead of 1-33 in gold fleet and 1-32 in
silver fleet.
Have any one experience of a similar problem?
Best regards,
Maria
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