Staggered starts, with a single (elased time) timer for several fleets

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I think my question may be very close to that in a recent thread, but I’m not sure I’ve seen an answer!

My Club runs a Regatta with two different Handicap classes. Each class has three races, and the two classes have their own start, separated by five minutes, on a common start / finish line. Typically, the race timing crew only run one timer and simply record each boat as it crosses the line.

In the past, we have published start times for each of the three races, those start times have been entered in Sailwave, and the finishing times have been recorded as clock time. That worked well enough, albeit with some grumbling about the number of digits to be entered for each result. We have the competitors for the two starts classified by Fleet, Handicap 1 and Handicap 2, then the two starts are set up for each race, with the competitors selected for each start by Fleet.

Now, however, the format has changed a bit. Insted of having fixed, published start times for each race, Races Two and Three are “asap after the end of the previous race”. The race committee are also now in the habit of recording elapsed times for results - fewer digits, less scope for error.

Last year, in entering the results, I had to manually subtract the five minutes from each competitor from the second start in each race. That process was tedious, and error-prone.

I can easily enough get the Race committee to record the start times, so they can be entered in “Edit Race” for each start, but is there any way to tell Sailwave that all the elapsed times come from a single timer, so the software can do the subtraction of the five minutes from the elapsed time for the second start in each race?

Any advice will be most gratefully received!

Ian Day

Hurst Castle Sailing Club

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I think it might work if you set the scoring to elapsed times. Set
the first start time to 0 and the 2nd start time to 0.5
Then enter finish times as elapsed times, with a 0 prefix, e.g.
0.33.26

Omitting the leading zero results in the minutes being taken as

hours.

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regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei, South Africa

   On 2018-07-12 22:48,

[sailwave] wrote:

          I think my question may be very close to that in a

recent thread, but I’m not sure I’ve seen an answer!

          My Club runs a Regatta with two different Handicap

classes. Each class has three races, and the two classes
have their own start, separated by five minutes, on a
common start / finish line. Typically, the race timing
crew only run one timer and simply record each boat as it
crosses the line.

          In the past, we have published start times for each of

the three races, those start times have been entered in
Sailwave, and the finishing times have been recorded as
clock time. That worked well enough, albeit with some
grumbling about the number of digits to be entered for
each result. We have the competitors for the two starts
classified by Fleet, Handicap 1 and Handicap 2, then the
two starts are set up for each race, with the competitors
selected for each start by Fleet.

          Now, however, the format has c hanged a bit. Insted of

having fixed, published start times for each race, Races
Two and Three are “asap after the end of the previous
race”. The race committee are also now in the habit of
recording elapsed times for results - fewer digits, less
scope for error.

          Last year, in entering the results, I had to manually

subtract the five minutes from each competitor from the
second start in each race. That process was tedious, and
error-prone.

          I can easily enough get the Race committee to record

the start times, so they can be entered in “Edit Race” for
each start, but is there any way to tell Sailwave that all
the elapsed times come from a single timer, so the
software can do the subtraction of the five minutes from
the elapsed time for the second start in each race?

Any advice will be most gratefully received!

Ian Day

Hurst Castle Sailing Club


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I get elapsed times from first gun, first start, all sorts of variations. What I do is to use “clock” times, but set the first start time for mdnight, 5 minutes after midnight, whatever fits the times I have, and give the other starts the appropriate offset.

Jim C

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Hi Malcom,

Really like your idea, Have you tried it, I couldn’t get to to change the times see http://www.gygsc.org.uk/Results/2018/RobbiesTestSeries.htm

The fast Handicap times in sailwave are 10:38 & 10:03 and remain unchaged I did try start various start times

JohnL - Robbie is currnetly working on Fleets and Rolling starts in the andriod App, its a lot of work for him, but he is enjoying himself. The above would possible have been a solution. Ps (App now has 3,2,1,go option) Do sign up for the UG as any feed back most welcome

Keith

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Thank you, Jim, and everyone else who has replied!

I’ve done a bit of experimenting this morning, and Jim’s idea seems to work very well. If the Race officers do unexpectedly produce clock-time finishes, all I have to do is enter the various start times in edit race, otherwise leave the preset midnight and 00:05 in place, and I can work with either elapsed or clock time finishes!

Problem solved!

Regards,

Ian Day

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Subject: [sailwave] Re: Staggered starts, with a single (elased time) timer for several fleets

I get elapsed times from first gun, first start, all sorts of variations. What I do is to use “clock” times, but set the first start time for mdnight, 5 minutes after midnight, whatever fits the times I have, and give the other starts the appropriate offset.

Jim C

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Hi Malcolm / John

Just got it, I had the time in the Elapsed not the Finish field Doh.

It gives me 99.9% of what I need.

Race 1 is set up with 2 starts, Fleet A & Fleet B with Start times of 00:00:00 and 00:05:00

When I import results from a file with a Finish Time of say 10mins and no start or elapsed time the start time remains at 00:00 for all competitor despite the race start been set at 00:05 for Fleet B, as soon as I edit the start and Ok it recomputes the elspased time correctly. Any chance the Import or the Score Series can recalc the elapsed time with out having to edit the start.

Not sure I can trust OOD, to edit the starts. This way race start time would only need to be edited if there was a general recall.

Cheers

Keith