Starting a Personal Handicap Series at our club

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We are trying to get more of the membership involved in the racing at our club, and are considering setting up one of our series as a Personal Handicap Series.

Sailwave outputs the BCR for each competitor for a single race.

  1. Is there an easy way to extract the average BCR for a helm/boat combination for a complete series to use in the next series?

  2. Does anyone have any experience of setting up a series with personal handicaps? Is the above idea known to be a good starting point?

Any help/suggestions will be much appreciated.

For information; we currently use the RYA PY handicaps.

Mark

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It would probably be better to use the NHC scoring system available
with Sailwave to accomplish this.

This system updates a skipper handicap on a race by race basis and

can be used as a starting handicap for the next series.

This is based on the RYA NHC - more information on this is available

online.

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Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei, South Africa

   On 2018-10-08 22:55,

[sailwave] wrote:

            We are trying to get more of the membership

involved in the racing at our club, and are considering
setting up one of our series as a Personal Handicap
Series.

            Sailwave outputs the BCR for each competitor for a

single race.

            1. Is there an easy way to extract the average BCR

for a helm/boat combination for a complete series to use
in the next series?

            2. Does anyone have any experience of setting up a

series with personal handicaps? Is the above idea known
to be a good starting point?

Any help/suggestions will be much appreciated.

            For information; we currently use the RYA PY

handicaps.

Mark


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What makes personal handicaps rather complicated issues that there are a number of very different approaches that go under the general name of personal handicapping. You do need to figure out what you want to do.

At one extreme I know of a club that runs a very successful pursuit series on an evening which appears to do little more than bunch up the fleet. So comes off the water in a very short time so the food is hot and everyone eats and socialises together. The actual series winners are the usual club hotshots. This is an excellent recipe for close racing in the last minutes of the race and the social side.

An important decision is whether you will dual score the race or not. Sail waves alias feature makes dual scoring very low effort, but if you dual score and your chosen personal handicap system still puts the club hotshots at the front then all you'll do is hand the same people the glassware, maybe in a slightly different order.

At my club we dual score with the personal handicaps based on previous seasons performance. This makes it an improvers series, favouring people relatively new to the sport who are getting faster rapidly. The hotshots rarely do well, because it's difficult to improve on being first!

Another option is what I call best sailor on the day. Back calc the handicaps on current performance, and the prizes go to the people who sail above their normal performance. Golf handicaps work like this. It doesn't make much sense for a long series, but is great for single events.

Other options simply bunch the scores up without really changing the series order. Best sailor still wins. NHC tends to have that result IM E, which is fair enough because it's supposed to. It is after all intended for club racing where there's no better way of working out handicaps.

What I strongly advise is thinking about what you want your personal handicapping to achieve, and then, vitally, go back and rescore a couple of past series to see what the revised results would be. Because you may find your first idea doesn't deliver what you want it to.

Jim C

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I see Malcolm has given a good suggestion.
There is a sample of the NHC in the examples distributed with the Sailwave install.

The NHC was initially designed for ratings using TCF, the version in the installed Sailwave works only with TCF when using internal calculations.

However, if you use the External mode it converts PY ratings to TCF to perform the calculations and then converts them back to the PY to put back in Sailwave. So it can be used with PY ratings in external mode.

I’ve just now added the ability to support the PY ratings using internal mode. To enable this you need to update the file SWHelper.exe with the new version.

Download this version 1.9.1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdeofeo6zhlo7ly/SWHelper.EXE?dl=1

and replace the version in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave directory with the new one.

I’m sure there will be other users interested in this and look forward to any feedback

Jon

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Jon,

Thanks for the update to internal NHC calculations. It works a treat with VYC.

Kind regards JohnL.

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I see Malcolm has given a good suggestion.

There is a sample of the NHC in the examples distributed with the Sailwave install.

The NHC was initially designed for ratings using TCF, the version in the installed Sailwave works only with TCF when using internal calculations.

However, if you use the External mode it converts PY ratings to TCF to perform the calculations and then converts them back to the PY to put back in Sailwave. So it can be used with PY ratings in external mode.

I’ve just now added the ability to support the PY ratings using internal mode. To enable this you need to update the file SWHelper.exe with the new version.

Download this version 1.9.1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdeofeo6zhlo7ly/SWHelper.EXE?dl=1

and replace the version in C:\Program Files (x86)\Sailwave directory with the new one.

I’m sure there will be other users interested in this and look forward to any feedback

Jon

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 22:13, junkemail@talktalk.net [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

We are trying to get more of the membership involved in the racing at our club, and are considering setting up one of our series as a Personal Handicap Series.

Sailwave outputs the BCR for each competitor for a single race.

  1. Is there an easy way to extract the average BCR for a helm/boat combination for a complete series to use in the next series?
  1. Does anyone have any experience of setting up a series with personal handicaps? Is the above idea known to be a good starting point?

Any help/suggestions will be much appreciated.

For information; we currently use the RYA PY handicaps.

Mark