Not sure if my topic got posted - I can’t see it, so sorry if a duplicate.
In summary, the way I have set up, my series has many starts with no boats, which means pressing ‘next’ dozens of times each rescore.
It there a ways to make it acceptable that a start has no boats?
Wouldn't a better way doing it to set up the classes that are in each start, i.e classes A, B, C in start 1, D, E, F in start 2, etc. of Race 1, same in other races?
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2015-11-08 19:16, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] wrote:
Not sure if my topic got posted - I can't see it, so sorry if a duplicate.
In summary, the way I have set up, my series has many starts with no boats, which means pressing 'next' dozens of times each rescore.
It there a ways to make it acceptable that a start has no boats?
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I have no idea who to set several classes into one start. The ‘start’ logic has AND in it not OR that I know of so I don’t know how to set Start 1 = Topper OR Mirror so I have to have Start 1 - a = Mirror and Start 1 - b = Topper as an example
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I have no idea who to set several classes into one start. The ‘start’ logic has AND in it not OR that I know of so I don’t know how to set Start 1 = Topper OR Mirror so I have to have Start 1 - a = Mirror and Start 1 - b = Topper as an example
Alan,
The start editor does the OR function on lines below each other, with the AND function on the same line.
So you would have Class = Topper on the top line (left), then Class = Mirror on the line below. Click on the Test button to see the effect.
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2015-11-08 23:02, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] wrote:
I have no idea who to set several classes into one start. The 'start' logic has AND in it not OR that I know of so I don't know how to set Start 1 = Topper OR Mirror so I have to have Start 1 - a = Mirror and Start 1 - b = Topper as an example
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Thanks for that, I never spotted teh OR function.
So thats reduces my starts from 30 odd to 12.
However I still get on average 6 starts with zero boats, so will still get that ‘error’ multiple times. Any ideas on that, I think it would be risky telling the RO to delete empty starts.
The OR function seems to only allow 3 selections.
What I have done is use PY rating ranges per start
This reduces me to 12 starts.
I still have the issue that Sailwave complains when a start has no boats.
With an average of 7 ‘empty’ starts per race and 30 races in a series, that means that by the end of the series
I’d have to press OK 7 * 30 = 210 times to rescore the series
There must be away around this - surely?
The best solution is not to create starts that have no boats in the race. But it is probably easiest to create them for all the races and just delete the starts for the race if you have no participants in that start. Sailwave will even tell you which starts they are if you attempt to score, and it has a button to edit the race there and then which will take you direct to the screen to delete them.
I would be reluctant to remove the check of no boats in a start as in most cases it is because you have mis-configured something.
Jon
On 10 November 2015 at 08:19, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
The OR function seems to only allow 3 selections.
What I have done is use PY rating ranges per start
This reduces me to 12 starts.
I still have the issue that Sailwave complains when a start has no boats.
With an average of 7 ‘empty’ starts per race and 30 races in a series, that means that by the end of the series
I’d have to press OK 7 * 30 = 210 times to rescore the series
There must be away around this - surely?
Jon Eskdale
07530 112233
Skype “eskdale”
Alan,
I havn't been able to try this, but if you put in 3 OR selections, then select Test - the Or function is displayed. Then, edit that function to add more classes.
Try it?
regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Rondevlei South Africa
On 2015-11-10 10:19, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] wrote:
The OR function seems to only allow 3 selections.
What I have done is use PY rating ranges per start
This reduces me to 12 starts.
I still have the issue that Sailwave complains when a start has no boats.
With an average of 7 'empty' starts per race and 30 races in a series, that means that by the end of the series
I'd have to press OK 7 * 30 = 210 times to rescore the series
There must be away around this - surely?
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Alan,
I am obviously missing something, as I have just created a Sailwave
file with 5 boats (each boat a different class) and set up
individual starts for each of them. I then entered start times for
each start and the used Sail Number Wizard to enter finish times. I
did this for two races, where in the second race I did not enter a
finish time for two boats. When I score the series I get no warnings
about a start not having any boats.
I know that there can be warning messages about *** a boat not
being in a start***.
If you care to send me a Sailwave file with which your experiencing
the problems I will take a look.
Kind regards,
Huw
On 10/11/2015 08:19, [sailwave] wrote:
The OR function seems to only allow 3 selections.
What I have done is use PY rating ranges per start
This reduces me to 12 starts.
I still have the issue that Sailwave complains when astart has no boats.
With an average of 7 'empty' starts per race and 30races in a series, that means that by the end of the
series
I'd have to press OK 7 * 30 = 210 times to rescorethe series
There must be away around this - surely?
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Hi Alan,
I now understand the issue having been in discussion with Jon and
doing some additional testing.
Apologies for not understanding the problem initially.
Kind regards,
Huw
On 10/11/2015 11:59, Huw Pearce
[sailwave] wrote:
Alan,
I am obviously missing something, as I have just created aSailwave file with 5 boats (each boat a different class)
and set up individual starts for each of them. I then
entered start times for each start and the used Sail
Number Wizard to enter finish times. I did this for two
races, where in the second race I did not enter a finish
time for two boats. When I score the series I get no
warnings about a start not having any boats.I know that there can be warning messages about *** aboat not being in a start***.
If you care to send me a Sailwave file with which yourexperiencing the problems I will take a look.
Kind regards,
Huw
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On 10/11/2015 08:19, [sailwave] wrote:
The OR function seems to only allow 3 selections.
What I have done is use PY rating ranges per start
This reduces me to 12 starts.
I still have the issue that Sailwave complains whena start has no boats.
With an average of 7 'empty' starts per race and30 races in a series, that means that by the end of
the series
I'd have to press OK 7 * 30 = 210 times torescore the series
There must be away around this - surely?
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Probably helps if I gave a more precise message
“No competitors in Start x of Race y”
Here is a test series, 2 classes raced out of 5 starts - try score series
Hi,
I still think the best solution is to delete the starts for which you don’t have boats. It is very quick to do and to delete the unused ones for a race should be far quicker than the time to add even a single competitor.
However I have updated Sailwave to have an option to suppress further errors. When you get the first message there is now an additional button labelled Suppress errors. This will stop any further errors being reported for this time of scoring. This will be useful to others when they make a mistake in the configuration and won’t have to step through all the errors before correcting it.
I have also updated the error message to display the name of the Start rather than a number in its list of starts so as to make it clearer. I suggest you give your starts names such as Slug or Bucket in your case this will make it clearer.
You can download the exe only for Sailwave version 2.19.13 from
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Make sure you have the latest full install completed and then
Replace the Sailwave.exe in your Program files \ Sailwave directory with this one.
Let me know how it goes
Jon
On 10 November 2015 at 18:12, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Here is a test series, 2 classes raced out of 5 starts - try score series
Jon Eskdale
07530 112233
Skype “eskdale”
Our race officers do one or two duties a year so it does fill me with dread the idea on creating instructions that say find all starts without competitors and delete them, as I know they either won’t or they will delete something random.
Thanks for your tweak though, much appreciated.
Just thinking - not sure if it is complex to code, but what if
Error - No competitors in Start XX of Race YY
Do you want to remove Start XX from Race YY [Yes/No]
within the error box, or even
That way there is less danger of deleting starts which actually had valid competors.
Presumably the starts are in there because they were copied form R1 as a list of potential starts?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:58 PM, alan@sailfun.co.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Our race officers do one or two duties a year so it does fill me with dread the idea on creating instructions that say find all starts without competitors and delete them, as I know they either won’t or they will delete something random.
Thanks for your tweak though, much appreciated.
Just thinking - not sure if it is complex to code, but what if
- Error - No competitors in Start XX of Race YY
- Do you want to remove Start XX from Race YY [Yes/No]
within the error box, or even
- Do you want to remove ALL Starts with no Competitors from Race YY [Yes/No]
That way there is less danger of deleting starts which actually had valid competors.
Cheers,
Colin J
Absolutely.
Don’t know how other clubs do it, but we have the same start sequence every Pursuit Race, week in week out. Hooter go whether boats are there or not.
Downloaded and it does the job.
Many thanks.
Alan