Sub Results

nationalscorpionasso · 24 June 2015 08:28

Morning All,

I am trying to set a sailwave file up for a big event.

In this event we will be running sub fleets (eg, Gold Silver Bronze, Vet Helm, Vet Crew etc etc…)

Is there a way of when publishing getting sailwave to list these out? (I have done this with Prizes, however doesn’t really have the desired effect)

I want to see the main results then below in separate tables the results by ‘category’

All will be scored as a group rather than individualy

Thanks

John

Sailwave · 24 June 2015 10:19

Hi John,

You can use the sort results by Field after scoring

and you can choose which field to sort on

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Does this do what you want?

Jon

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On 24 June 2015 at 09:28, nationalscorpionassociation@yahoo.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Morning All,

I am trying to set a sailwave file up for a big event.

In this event we will be running sub fleets (eg, Gold Silver Bronze, Vet Helm, Vet Crew etc etc…)

Is there a way of when publishing getting sailwave to list these out? (I have done this with Prizes, however doesn’t really have the desired effect)

I want to see the main results then below in separate tables the results by ‘category’

All will be scored as a group rather than individualy

Thanks

John

Jon Eskdale

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nationalscorpionasso · 24 June 2015 10:43

Hi John,

Thanks for the quick reply, I think maybe it is Scored Groups I am looking for…

Want to do what this club is doing with G/S/B fleets

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nationalscorpionasso · 24 June 2015 11:05

Hi John

I think I need to set them up as ‘Scored Groups’ cant find (or being a bit thick) anywhere saying how they are set up

I am looking for the way Shotwick Lake handle Combine, Gold, Silver, Bronze

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Sailwave · 24 June 2015 11:20

Hi John,

I would think that is done using alias’s

And then scored by fleet

So each competitor is in their fleet Gold/Silver/Bronze and an Alias of each competitor is created which is in the Combined fleet

Hope that helps

Jon

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Hi John,

Thanks for the quick reply, I think maybe it is Scored Groups I am looking for…

Want to do what this club is doing with G/S/B fleets

Sailwave results for Twighlight 2015 at Shotwick Lake Sailing 2015

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Huw2 · 25 June 2015 13:18

Hi John,

I agree with Jon that it was probably done using the alias

functionality in Sailwave. However I would probably create the
Combined fleet first and then alias the competitors at put the alias
into the appropriate one of Gold/Silver/Bronze. Just a slightly
different way of achieving the same goal.

However there is something to be aware of when re-scoring according

to different group criteria. If you score the combined fleet and
have two boats X & Y say who in the Combined results are ranked
X before Y, it is possible when they are in the same sub-group, say
Gold, and re-scored for Y to rank before X.

The event Sailing Instructions should state clearly what is going to

happen. For example in the 2016 RS:X European Championships they
have the following in their SI’s:

Scores for the:
```
      2015 2015 RS:X European Windsurfing Championships and the
```
2015 Palermo RS:X U21 Windsurfing Championships will be
extracted from the overall @European Open Trophy Results’
without recalculation.
Just pointing out that one needs to be careful otherwise in the case
of an Optimist event I scored in the past before I understood this,
I had parents in quite a flap. As Jon said in a response to a post
in another SUG message in that is wanting to do something similar if
not the same; Oppie parents can be scary but I have meet plenty of
nice ones as well.

Kind regards,

Huw

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On 24/06/2015 12:20, Jon Eskdale
[sailwave] wrote:

jon@sailwave.com

Hi John,

I would think that is done using alias’s

And then scored by fleet

            So each competitor is in their fleet
Gold/Silver/Bronze and an Alias of each competitor is
created which is in the Combined fleet

Hope that helps

Jon

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07976 709777

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Hi John,

                        Thanks for the quick reply, I think maybe

it is Scored Groups I am looking for…

                        Want to do what this club is doing with

G/S/B fleets

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Twighlight 2015 at Shotwick Lake Sailing
2015

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Bob · 25 June 2015 18:04

Hi

I am going around in circles every time I try sending the results for my club to the RYA I get an error message HTTP 500, any advice what I am doing wrong.

Regards

Bob

Huw2 · 25 June 2015 18:16

Hi Bob,

First question is which version of Sailwave are you using? This is

important because the RYA changed the server being used and that is
hard coded into Sailwave. You need a fairly recent version for the
new server.

Kind regards,
Huw

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On 25/06/2015 19:04, HAZEL TAYLOR
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Hi

          I am going around in circles every time I try sending the
results for my club to the RYA I get an error message HTTP
500, any advice what I am doing wrong.

Regards

Bob

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Bob · 25 June 2015 19:14

Hello Huw
I am using 2.18.5
Regards
Bob

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nationalscorpionasso · 25 June 2015 23:44

Hi Huw, Jon,

Thanks for you input. I can see the 'paradox' because it is based on relative position based on the 'competitors' in each subset.

We are having a discussion around how we want to do this

If you don’t score by group, then you end up with the system thinking the competitors aliases are genuine new competitors and the scoring goes a bit haywire

Having just set up 60 boats across up to ten categories it works in the way you have suggested but is quite fiddly.

In my search to solve this found the functionality to set up different starts where you can just select from a list the boats in different starts, this may be the way for sub results to be set up, it seems a bit easier.

Then maybe give the option to either score separately or or inherit the score assigned in the Overall (or base)

Stella piece of software either way

John

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Sailwave · 26 June 2015 00:47

Hi Hazel,

The 500 error is an internal error on the RYA server.

I did see it a few times during testing of the new software. It’s probably caused by something in your blw file but agree the system should give you a better error than 500. If you could send me jon@sailwave.com your blw file I’ll investigate it for you. Perhaps one thing you could check is the format of the race dates as these have to be yyyy-mm-dd

Jon

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On 25 June 2015 at 20:14, HAZEL TAYLOR taylor643@btinternet.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Hello Huw

I am using 2.18.5

Regards

Bob

----Original message----
From : sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date : 25/06/2015 - 19:16 (GMTDT)
To : sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject : Re: [sailwave] Http 500

Hi Bob,
First question is which version of Sailwave are you using? This is
important because the RYA changed the server being used and that is
hard coded into Sailwave. You need a fairly recent version for the
new server.
Kind regards,
Huw

  On 25/06/2015 19:04, HAZEL TAYLOR
taylor643@btinternet.com [sailwave] wrote:

Hi

          I am going around in circles every time I try sending the
results for my club to the RYA I get an error message HTTP
500, any advice what I am doing wrong.

Regards

Bob

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Sailwave · 27 June 2015 23:45

Just for anyone following this Thread. The issue was that the file contained blank races. That is races within the series that had no results. The races being sent to the RYA was selected as “*” i.e. All races

The server software doesn’t appear to like you sending races without any results. The work around is to only send the races which have results e.g. use 1-5,7-10 to omit sending race 6

Jon