is there anyway to setup a team racing event using the flights
function. I can't seem to get it to make any sense. Right now we'll
have 8 to 12 teams competing in 18 boats, which also have to a
rotation. It's all fairly confusing to me.
Hi
You need special race schedules for TR - SW does not cover TR.
I have attached TR schedules for 2 flights (12 boats) covering 8 to 18 teams & 3 flights (18 boats)
for a 21 team entry
I set these up for the Warwick Turtle (if you are UK based)
If they are any use, let me know by direct email & I will try & help
Regards
Ralph
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From: NLEdit [mailto:nledit@yahoo.com]
Sent: 02 May 2006 02:59
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Team Racing
is there anyway to setup a team racing event using the flights
function. I can't seem to get it to make any sense. Right now we'll
have 8 to 12 teams competing in 18 boats, which also have to a
rotation. It's all fairly confusing to me.
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is there anyway to setup a team racing event using the flights
function. I can't seem to get it to make any sense. Right now we'll
have 8 to 12 teams competing in 18 boats, which also have to a
rotation. It's all fairly confusing to me. <<
What is the specific details of the rortation? It may be possible bit there
is noting specific in Sailwave for Team Racing as it stands.
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I just did a national qualifier for high school team racing here in
the midwest: 12 teams, about 96 students, 18 boats. I wasn't able to
use Sailwave, though I tried. The flights are very different from the
flights in team racing. I found a program at the Team racing assn.
which generated the flights and rotation. It lists the rotation by
team number (1 to whatever), team names (Hopkins, Wayzata, New
Trier...) or by boat color (red v. white, blue v green ...). I then
drew out a matrix for 66 races, which for 12 teams is each team
sailing against all the other teams once. We got all 66 races done in
less than the 8 hours alloted. Never seen anything like it before.
The trick isn't really in the rotations, but in the tie breaking.
You have to keep track of the head to head meetings so you know who
beat who if the two teams are tied, and the point scores for each race
and yet another tie breaker. The first level of tie breaking is
supposed to be a sail off (this all from ISSA procedural rules). But
we did not have the time for that. The following day we had 12 more
races for the four teams in the finals.
Hope that helps.
Robb Harriss (nledit @ yahoo.com)
Hopkins Sailing
Wayzata Sailing School/Wayzata Yacht Club
Wayzata, Minnesota USA
>>is there anyway to setup a team racing event using the flights
function. I can't seem to get it to make any sense. Right now we'll
have 8 to 12 teams competing in 18 boats, which also have to a
rotation. It's all fairly confusing to me. <<What is the specific details of the rortation? It may be possible
bit there
is noting specific in Sailwave for Team Racing as it stands.
Regards,
Colin
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Jenkins" <colin@...> wrote:
Hi Robb
Never seen anything like it before<<
Have a look at the Wilson Trophy site
http://www.wksc.net/wilsontrophy/
They got through 257 races in a weekend.
It is one of the most spectacular events I have seen for organisation, thrills & spills etc.
The only problem this year is that both teams came from some 'little' country across the pond 
When you drive away from the event on a Sunday evening, you spend the next hour wondering why there
is all this rubbish about medals races etc. Look no further than team racing!!
I guess the down side is that when we are restricted to 400 athletes in the Olympics, a TR event
would mean significant reduction in classes.
Regards
Ralph
well, I'm not going to feel bad at our "only" doing 66 races. We put
the whole thing together in two and a half days and half a dozen
people. We're a volunteer-run club and "we'd been behind the 8 ball"
with some other issues, and got a very late start. We ran everything
on a single course. It helped that we'd just bought one of the new
automated starting systems. That let us run the start boat with fewer
people. The horn was too loud, though, and we got complaints from the
neighbors. We've since found a way to downtune it.
I'll go look at the Wilson Trophy site and try not to be depressed
about it. 
Team racing looks like fun. I'd love to try it, from the water side
instead of inside the clubhouse.
Robb
Hi Robb
>>Never seen anything like it before<<
Have a look at the Wilson Trophy site
http://www.wksc.net/wilsontrophy/They got through 257 races in a weekend.
It is one of the most spectacular events I have seen for
organisation, thrills & spills etc.
The only problem this year is that both teams came from some
'little' country across the pond
When you drive away from the event on a Sunday evening, you spend
the next hour wondering why there
is all this rubbish about medals races etc. Look no further than
team racing!!
I guess the down side is that when we are restricted to 400 athletes
in the Olympics, a TR event
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@...> wrote:
would mean significant reduction in classes.
Regards
Ralph
Forget my comments
You all deserve a big pat on the back.
Half a dozen people is amazing.
Have a go a team racing some time.
I always think of TR as draughts (checkers?) on water.
But the ultimate is Match Racing - chess on water!
Regards
Ralph
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-----Original Message-----
From: NLEdit [mailto:nledit@yahoo.com]
Sent: 16 May 2006 14:23
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Team Racing
well, I'm not going to feel bad at our "only" doing 66 races. We put
the whole thing together in two and a half days and half a dozen
people. We're a volunteer-run club and "we'd been behind the 8 ball"
with some other issues, and got a very late start. We ran everything
on a single course. It helped that we'd just bought one of the new
automated starting systems. That let us run the start boat with fewer
people. The horn was too loud, though, and we got complaints from the
neighbors. We've since found a way to downtune it.
I'll go look at the Wilson Trophy site and try not to be depressed
about it.
Team racing looks like fun. I'd love to try it, from the water side
instead of inside the clubhouse.
Robb
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@...> wrote:
Hi Robb
>>Never seen anything like it before<<
Have a look at the Wilson Trophy site
http://www.wksc.net/wilsontrophy/They got through 257 races in a weekend.
It is one of the most spectacular events I have seen for
organisation, thrills & spills etc.
The only problem this year is that both teams came from some
'little' country across the pond
When you drive away from the event on a Sunday evening, you spend
the next hour wondering why there
is all this rubbish about medals races etc. Look no further than
team racing!!
I guess the down side is that when we are restricted to 400 athletes
in the Olympics, a TR event
would mean significant reduction in classes.
Regards
Ralph
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