Tie resolution

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We've just had a small race series where the leading 2 boats scored

6-2-1 and 2-1-2 respectively,

2 races to count so I ticked the ISAF 8.1 box which gave the win to boat with 2-1-2
result according to Sailwave. The result was amended after discussion with race
committe to give win to the boat with 6-2-1 result. The sailing instructions say that
tie resolution is by 8.1 - 8.3 ISAF rules so I thought the original Sailwave was correct,
Am I missing something ?? Is the correct procedure to include the discard for the best
results??

Thanks

Michael

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What does your sailing instructions say as regards scoring. Assuming that
you are using appendix A with no modifications, you should have two boxes
checked under series tie resolution, ISAF Appendix A 8.1, and ISAF Appendix
A 8.2.

Sailwave has three series tie resolution options, ISAF Appendix A 8.1 (most
1st, 2nd, etc. no excluded scores), ISAF Appendix A 8.2 (best recent race,
include excluded scores), and old ISAF Appendix A 8.2 (who beat who most
times, exclude discard). There is an additional option that allows discards
to be included in A 8.1.

It sounds as though you have checked the option to include discards, this
will cause the 2-1-2 to be beat 6-2-1. Uncheck the box and rescore, it
should work...

As regards what is best....... include or exclude the discard.... I tend to
try and stick with the unmodified rules, then at least everyone knows what
is happening...

Mark T.....

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-------Original Message-------

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 12:47:55 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Tie resolution

We've just had a small race series where the leading 2 boats scored

6-2-1 and 2-1-2 respectively,

2 races to count so I ticked the ISAF 8.1 box which gave the win to boat
with 2-1-2
result according to Sailwave. The result was amended after discussion with
race
committe to give win to the boat with 6-2-1 result. The sailing instructions
say that
tie resolution is by 8.1 - 8.3 ISAF rules so I thought the original Sailwave
was correct,
Am I missing something ?? Is the correct procedure to include the discard
for the best
results??

Thanks

Michael

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Hi Micheal,

We've just had a small race series where the leading 2 boats scored

6-2-1 and 2-1-2 respectively,

2 races to count so I ticked the ISAF 8.1 box which gave the win
to boat with 2-1-2
result according to Sailwave. The result was amended after
discussion with race
committe to give win to the boat with 6-2-1 result. The sailing
instructions say that
tie resolution is by 8.1 - 8.3 ISAF rules so I thought the
original Sailwave was correct,
Am I missing something ?? Is the correct procedure to include the
discard for the best
results??

Did you also have the tick box cjecked to include discarded results when
applying 8.1 - ut seems to work here...?

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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Colin: Michael
I just attended a U.S. Sailing seminar for qualification for national race
officers. Here are some of the things I picked up.

1. Unless changed in the sailing instructions, one race is always thrown
out( excluded) if 2 or more races sailed.

2. The original ISAF instructions on tie breaking had 3 paragraphs. (8.1,
8.2, 8.3)

   A . Paragraph one calls for ties to be broken based on who had the most
1sts, then 2nds, etc. after the throw out (excluded race)

    B. Par 8.2 has been eliminated.

    C. Par 8.3 to be used if a tie still exists calls for excluded races
back in and tie broken by who beat who in the last race sailed.

I havent used Sail Wave in a while but I seem to remember check boxes for
each par seperately. I.E. Proper operation could be obtained by checking
box 1 & box 3.

George F. Goodall
1986 Catalina 30 TRBS
"Frantic"
georgeg305@cox.net

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Colin Jenkins
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [sailwave] Tie resolution

  Hi Micheal,

  > We've just had a small race series where the leading 2 boats scored
  >
  > 6-2-1 and 2-1-2 respectively,
  >
  > 2 races to count so I ticked the ISAF 8.1 box which gave the win
  > to boat with 2-1-2
  > result according to Sailwave. The result was amended after
  > discussion with race
  > committe to give win to the boat with 6-2-1 result. The sailing
  > instructions say that
  > tie resolution is by 8.1 - 8.3 ISAF rules so I thought the
  > original Sailwave was correct,
  > Am I missing something ?? Is the correct procedure to include the
  > discard for the best
  > results??
  >

  Did you also have the tick box cjecked to include discarded results when
  applying 8.1 - ut seems to work here...?

  Regards,
  Colin
  www.sailwave.com

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