All is resolved ! I found John Harvey and he has clarified all.
Regards
Seamus
Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my
mind as
well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph
being away
I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look
at the
Sailwave file you are working on.
Kind regards,
HuwPS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two
days 
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in
the second
start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be
included
in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced
on the
outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested
under 28.1 &
scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just 'started
late',
then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no
time limit
from 1st boat finishing)
I don't understand why you had to re-score her in different
fleets &
create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply
get a
finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result
should be
changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start,
moved up a
place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have
happened,
Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with
races
1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all
week) &
the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of
counting
races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it
necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National
Regatta
in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday eveningYes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn't get
in the
···
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Huw Pearce" <huw.pearce@...> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
way of sailing ;-)))Regards
Ralph--------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsWow - that's impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking
the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind
today
so I may get a quiet few hours !
I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour
(green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score
the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of
the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for
Race
1. Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I'm sure like me you have
daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that
gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on
the
web for the final results !
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@> wrote:
>
> Hi Seamus
> Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:
>
> If 3 races are completed a boat's score will be the total of her
race
> scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
> been completed a boat's series score will be the total of her
race
scores
> excluding her worst score. When
> from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat's series score
will
be the
> total of her race scores excluding
> her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been
completed
a boat's
> series score will be the
> total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.
>
> This means that you set a normal discard profile
>
> The next relevant paras state:
>
> Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
> In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.
>
> Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall
retain
> at least one race from the final
> series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from
the
final
> series when 12 or more races
> have been completed.
>
> This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which
used to
> stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
> You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed
and be
ready to
> changed the scoring system discards
>
> To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
> This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
> number of discards in the Finals
> If you complete your race schedule, you don't need to do
anything
in this
> tab (don't switch Q&F on)
> If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
> discards in the finals to achieve the required number of
counting
races
>
> Also, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
> _____
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of seamushand
> Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
>
>
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com, Paul
> Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I'm not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifying
> results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with
th
> FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
>
> Ralph,
>
> I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
> from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup
from
the
> Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
>
> Thank you both for your help.
>
> Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
> but that is tomorrows problem !
>
> Seamus
>
> >
> > Seamus,
> >
> > Is John Harvey out there with you ?
> >
> > If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,
> with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
> problems. He might be able to help you out.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
> RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Seamus
> > I'm struggling with this one, especially using publish
> > At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ie
> as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start)
which I
> think is what you are looking for
> > Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to re-create this in
b11
> with some old Topper sample data
> >
> > One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboard
> > You could then play around with the data to produce what you
are
> looking for
> >
> > Sorry I can't get you any further with this
> > If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,
> please reply to Seamus
> >
> > Regards
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> >
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
> Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
> [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
> >
> >
> > Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
> results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
> RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
> against.ThanksSeamus--- In sailwave@yahoogroup
> <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com, "Ralph Tingle"
> <rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
> Split Starts ....> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
you
> will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
> need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
up
> for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
>
> > > > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
> <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
> > Of seamushand> Sent: 20
> July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
> s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
> Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
> colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
> Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
> Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but I
> cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2nd
> etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup
for
> Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
to
> do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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