Hi,
I have set up 4 fleet colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 (
Red&Blue) amd Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).
I can get results for a)The Entire Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each
Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I cannot get the result by race which is
what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd etc).
Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for Topper Worlds
( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to do wwhat I need
witht the fleets
Thanks
Seamus
Hi Seamus
Click on User Interface
Select Pro & tick Split Starts …
Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you will now see the option for multiple 1sts, 2nds etc
You may also need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start
This was set up for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent:
20 July 2008 21:16
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi,
I have set up 4 fleet colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 (
Red&Blue) amd Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).
I can get results for a)The Entire Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each
Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I cannot get the result by race which is
what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd etc).
Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for Topper Worlds
( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to do wwhat I need
witht the fleets
Thanks
Seamus
Ralph,
Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see results
by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not RaceStart
which is what the conpetitors issue their queries against.
Thanks
Seamus
Hi Seamus
Click on User Interface
Select Pro & tick Split Starts ....
Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you will now see the
option for
multiple 1sts, 2nds etc
You may also need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start
This was set up for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIsRegards
Ralph_____
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 20 July 2008 21:16
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Topper Scoring using fleetsHi,
I have set up 4 fleet colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 (
Red&Blue) amd Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).I can get results for a)The Entire Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)
Each
Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I cannot get the result by race which
is
what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd etc).
Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for Topper
Worlds
( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to do wwhat I
need
Hi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11 with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are looking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other, please reply to Seamus
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent:
22 July 2008 11:20
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,
Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see results
by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not RaceStart
which is what the conpetitors issue their queries against.
Thanks
Seamus
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Click on User Interface
Select Pro & tick Split Starts …
Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you will now see the
option for
multiple 1sts, 2nds etcYou may also need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start
This was set up for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIsRegards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 20 July 2008 21:16
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Topper Scoring using fleetsHi,
I have set up 4 fleet colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 (
Red&Blue) amd Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).I can get results for a)The Entire Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)
Each
Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I cannot get the result by race which
is
what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd etc).Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for Topper
Worlds
( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to do wwhat I
need
witht the fleetsThanks
Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland, with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of any problems. He might be able to help you out.
Paul
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
From: rat@attat.com
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11 with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are looking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other, please reply to Seamus
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 11:20
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,
Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see results
by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not RaceStart
which is what the conpetitors issue their queries against.
Thanks
Seamus
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Click on User Interface
Select Pro & tick Split Starts …
Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you will now see the
option for
multiple 1sts, 2nds etcYou may also need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start
This was set up for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIsRegards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 20 July 2008 21:16
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Topper Scoring using fleetsHi,
I have set up 4 fleet colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 (
Red&Blue) amd Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).I can get results for a)The Entire Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)
Each
Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I cannot get the result by race which
is
what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd etc).Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for Topper
Worlds
( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to do wwhat I
need
witht the fleetsThanks
Seamus
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Hi Paul,
I'm not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and final -
but that is tomorrows problem !
Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of any
problems. He might be able to help you out.
Paul
To: sailwave@...: rat@...: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
I'm struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking for
Sorry I can't get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to Seamus
Regards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@...:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle"
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro & tick
Split Starts ....> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > > Regards>
> > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Paul Craig <sailtastic@...> wrote:
_________________________________________________________________
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Seamus,
I cannot remember if you are using the latest build of Sailwave, Build
11, but you need to to. This build fixed a problem with discards across
Q-Series & F-Series.
Tip - Don’t forget to read Sailing Instructions carefully 
Kind regards,
Huw
seamushand wrote:
rat@…:
sailwave@yahoogroups.comsailwave@yahoogroups.com
:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com,
“Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface>
Select Pro & tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You
may also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
Regards>
Ralph> > > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf> Of seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set
up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:
If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her race scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race scores excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed a boat’s series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.
This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.
Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall retain at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the final series when 12 or more races
have been completed.
This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be ready to changed the scoring system discards
To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the maximum number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything in this tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the number of discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting races
Also, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent:
22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Paul Craig <sailtastic@…> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and final -
but that is tomorrows problem !
Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@…: rat@…: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@…:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro & tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > > Regards>_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Wow - that's impressive service!
Thanks
I will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !
I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
1. Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.
Thanks for all your hekp to date - I'm sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat's score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat's series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat's series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat's
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discards
To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don't need to do anything
in this
tab (don't switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
races
Also, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph_____
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets--- In sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I'm not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !
Seamus
>
> Seamus,
>
> Is John Harvey out there with you ?
>
> If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Seamus
> I'm struggling with this one, especially using publish
> At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
> Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample data
>
> One option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
> You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking for
>
> Sorry I can't get you any further with this
> If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to Seamus
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
>
>
> Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus--- In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com, "Ralph Tingle"
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts ....> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
> > > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
> Of seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@...> wrote:
com/UKM/go/101719806/direct/01/
>
Seamus,
Interesting problem!
My initial thought would be to use a scoring code that has its points manually set; create one if none of the standard codes seem appropriate. Then give the competitor the code and assign the points equivalent to what finish position was determined appropriate. RalphT - what do you think?
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Seamus,
Follow-up to last message, you say you are going to be “importing/linking
the qualifying etc.”; having read the SI’s I think you will be
using just one Sailwave file to cover both the Q-series & F-series
as this is the only way I can see the documented discard procedure
working.
Tip - I would create a copy of the Q-series file and use it for the
F-series, you always have something to go back to if something goes
wrong
Kind regards,
Huw
Huw Pearce wrote:
Seamus,
Interesting problem!
My initial thought would be to use a scoring
code that has its points manually set; create one if none of the
standard codes seem appropriate. Then give the competitor the code and
assign the points equivalent to what finish position was determined
appropriate. RalphT - what do you think?
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on
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mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
[www.traleebaysailin](http://www.traleebaysailin)gclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com
,
“Ralph Tingle” wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.
Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and
be ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting races
Also, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph_____ > > From: [mailto:]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: > Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup <<rat@…>
sailwave@yahoogroups.comsailwave@yahoogroups.com
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com>
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !
Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.
Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in
b11
with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you
are
looking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,
please reply to Seamus
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com>
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com>
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way
to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com, “Ralph
Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User
Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race
Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> >
You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > >
Regards>
Ralph> > > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com>
s.com] On
Behalf> Of seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <
40yahoogroups.mailto:sailwave%
com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have
set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for
a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as
backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks>
Seamus>
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Hi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in the second start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be included in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced on the outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested under 28.1 & scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started late’, then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no time limit from 1st boat finishing)
I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different fleets & create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply get a finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result should be changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start, moved up a place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have happened, Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with races 1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all week) & the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of counting races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National Regatta in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get in the way of sailing ;-)))
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent:
23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
Thanks
I will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !
I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Ralph,
In Laser Standard Europeans, a boat sailed in the wrong fleet, and the score code was DNS as she was in the starting area but failed to pass the starting line between the warning signal (should then have been ranked as OCS) and the closing of the line 4 minutes after the start signal according to the SI’s
Bad luck for this competitor, who finished 3rd and 5th in two races in Yellow fleet on the same day, but was ranked as 45th /50 in Red Fleet as her normal start was 8 minutes earlier, asked for re-scoring, then the RC understood she sailed in the wrong fleet and was downgraded from mid-Silver to Bronze for the finals…
If Seasmus wants to score the boat anyway, can he consider entering the boat a second time as an alias in the fleet she actually sailed?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ralph Tingle
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in the second start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be included in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced on the outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested under 28.1 & scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started late’, then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no time limit from 1st boat finishing)
I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different fleets & create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply get a finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result should be changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start, moved up a place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have happened, Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with races 1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all week) & the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of counting races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National Regatta in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get in the way of sailing ;-)))
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my mind as well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph being away I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look at the Sailwave file you are working on.
Kind regards,
Huw
PS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two days
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in the second start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be included in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced on the outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested under 28.1 & scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started late’, then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no time limit from 1st boat finishing)
I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different fleets & create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply get a finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result should be changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start, moved up a place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have happened, Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with races 1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all week) & the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of counting races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National Regatta in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get in the way of sailing ;-)))
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Hi Phil
Not totally sure of the facts in the Topper situation so simply opted for DSQ (of some sort) & agree with Laser decision
As this is a World Championship, the Jury would probably be involved
If the decision was to score the boat anyway, this is where I am getting confused with what Seamus has done.
In my mind, the competitor appears as a row in the SW file and has a space for a result.
On this (simple) premise, the race 1 result can be changed to record anything - either automatically calculated (SNW), adjusted (rearrange recorded places) or ‘forced’ through the letter code system
Races 2 onwards will then be added as the regatta progresses
This Topper event has elements of Appendix LE Addendum C (referring to Q & F) but in reality is a simple single series with multiple starts and multiple 1sts, 2nds etc - unless I am missing something
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philippe DE TROY
Sent: 23 July 2008 10:00
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,
In Laser Standard Europeans, a boat sailed in the wrong fleet, and the score code was DNS as she was in the starting area but failed to pass the starting line between the warning signal (should then have been ranked as OCS) and the closing of the line 4 minutes after the start signal according to the SI’s
Bad luck for this competitor, who finished 3rd and 5th in two races in Yellow fleet on the same day, but was ranked as 45th /50 in Red Fleet as her normal start was 8 minutes earlier, asked for re-scoring, then the RC understood she sailed in the wrong fleet and was downgraded from mid-Silver to Bronze for the finals…
If Seasmus wants to score the boat anyway, can he consider entering the boat a second time as an alias in the fleet she actually sailed?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Tingle
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in the second start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be included in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced on the outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested under 28.1 & scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started late’, then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no time limit from 1st boat finishing)
I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different fleets & create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply get a finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result should be changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start, moved up a place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have happened, Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with races 1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all week) & the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of counting races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National Regatta in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get in the way of sailing ;-)))
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my
mind as
well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph
being away
I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look
at the
Sailwave file you are working on.
Kind regards,
HuwPS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two
days
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in
the second
start instead of the first
ANS: Actually she started in the FirstStart with the Green fleet but
she was scored with the BLue Fleet ( as she was Blue in SW)
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be
included
in the wrong results sheet ??
ANS: Yes ( She carried Greena nd was Blue in SW - Race Office, ie
me , error!)
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
ANS: Yes - so she appeared in 2nd Place in the results for the Blue
fleet and distorted that result too.
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced
on the
outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested
under 28.1 &
scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just 'started
late',
then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no
time limit
from 1st boat finishing)
I don't understand why you had to re-score her in different
fleets &
create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply
get a
finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result
should be
changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start,
moved up a
place
ANS: Jury gave here redress to the postion she should be scored in
her correct Green fleet - and to remove her influence on the Blue
fleet. But as I cannot change her colour for just Race 1 ( or can I)
I had to do what I did.
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have
happened,
Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with
races
1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all
week) &
the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of
counting
races/discards in the finals series
ANS: OK. I'll work in that - I'm sure the has been thrashed out
before about reassigning fron Red/Blue/Green/Yello to Gold/SIlver so
if you could send me a link top that convewrsation I would be most
grateful
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it
necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National
Regatta
in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
ANS: Thankls agin for the help. I have found details for Sally
Harvey, who I assumne is JOhn's daughter do I will go looking for him
Enjoy the Nationsls
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn't get
in the
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Huw Pearce" <huw.pearce@...> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
way of sailing ;-)))Regards
Ralph--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsWow - that's impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking
the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind
today
so I may get a quiet few hours !
I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour
(green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score
the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of
the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for
Race
1. Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I'm sure like me you have
daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that
gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on
the
web for the final results !
--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Tingle" <rat@> wrote:
>
> Hi Seamus
> Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:
>
> If 3 races are completed a boat's score will be the total of her
race
> scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
> been completed a boat's series score will be the total of her
race
scores
> excluding her worst score. When
> from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat's series score
will
be the
> total of her race scores excluding
> her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been
completed
a boat's
> series score will be the
> total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.
>
> This means that you set a normal discard profile
>
> The next relevant paras state:
>
> Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
> In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.
>
> Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall
retain
> at least one race from the final
> series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from
the
final
> series when 12 or more races
> have been completed.
>
> This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which
used to
> stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
> You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed
and be
ready to
> changed the scoring system discards
>
> To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
> This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
> number of discards in the Finals
> If you complete your race schedule, you don't need to do
anything
in this
> tab (don't switch Q&F on)
> If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
> discards in the finals to achieve the required number of
counting
races
>
> Also, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
>
> Regards
> Ralph
>
>
> _____
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of seamushand
> Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
>
>
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com, Paul
> Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I'm not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifying
> results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with
th
> FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
>
> Ralph,
>
> I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
> from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup
from
the
> Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
>
> Thank you both for your help.
>
> Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
> but that is tomorrows problem !
>
> Seamus
>
> >
> > Seamus,
> >
> > Is John Harvey out there with you ?
> >
> > If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,
> with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
> problems. He might be able to help you out.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
> RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Seamus
> > I'm struggling with this one, especially using publish
> > At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ie
> as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start)
which I
> think is what you are looking for
> > Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to re-create this in
b11
> with some old Topper sample data
> >
> > One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboard
> > You could then play around with the data to produce what you
are
> looking for
> >
> > Sorry I can't get you any further with this
> > If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,
> please reply to Seamus
> >
> > Regards
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> >
> > From: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
> Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
> [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
> >
> >
> > Ralph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
> results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
> RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
> against.ThanksSeamus--- In sailwave@yahoogroup
> <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com, "Ralph Tingle"
> <rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
> Split Starts ....> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
you
> will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
> need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
up
> for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
>
> > > > _____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
> <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
s.com] On
> > Of seamushand> Sent: 20
> July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
> s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
> Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
> colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
> Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
> Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but I
> cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2nd
> etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup
for
> Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
to
> do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
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>
Seamus,
Thanks for the explanation.
Is the boat in question being reassigned to Green for all the other races or to there pre-assigned colour blue?
I would using scoring code RDG and assign it the value agreed by the Jury, this also has the advantage of showing that it was a Jury decision.
If you want I will take a look at your file.
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 10:37
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Huw Pearce” <huw.pearce@…> wrote:
Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my
mind as
well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph
being away
I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look
at the
Sailwave file you are working on.Kind regards,
HuwPS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two
days
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in
the second
start instead of the first
ANS: Actually she started in the FirstStart with the Green fleet but
she was scored with the BLue Fleet ( as she was Blue in SW)
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be
included
in the wrong results sheet ??
ANS: Yes ( She carried Greena nd was Blue in SW - Race Office, ie
me , error!)Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
ANS: Yes - so she appeared in 2nd Place in the results for the Blue
fleet and distorted that result too.The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced
on the
outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested
under 28.1 &
scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started
late’,
then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no
time limit
from 1st boat finishing)I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different
fleets &
create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply
get a
finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result
should be
changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start,
moved up a
place
ANS: Jury gave here redress to the postion she should be scored in
her correct Green fleet - and to remove her influence on the Blue
fleet. But as I cannot change her colour for just Race 1 ( or can I)
I had to do what I did.Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have
happened,
Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with
races
1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all
week) &
the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of
counting
races/discards in the finals series
ANS: OK. I’ll work in that - I’m sure the has been thrashed out
before about reassigning fron Red/Blue/Green/Yello to Gold/SIlver so
if you could send me a link top that convewrsation I would be most
gratefulIt might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it
necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National
Regatta
in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
ANS: Thankls agin for the help. I have found details for Sally
Harvey, who I assumne is JOhn’s daughter do I will go looking for him
Enjoy the NationslsYes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get
in the
way of sailing ;-)))Regards
Ralph
–
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsWow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking
the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind
today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour
(green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score
the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of
the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for
Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have
daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that
gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on
the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her
race
scoresexcluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score
will
be thetotal of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been
completed
a boat’sseries score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall
retainat least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from
the
finalseries when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which
used tostipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed
and be
ready tochanged the scoring system discards
To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do
anything
in thistab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of
counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifyingresults finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with
thFFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup
from
theColour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ieas they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start)
which Ithink is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in
b11with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboardYou could then play around with the data to produce what you
arelooking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,please reply to Seamus
Regards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamu s— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
youwill now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
upfor Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but Icannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2ndetc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup
forTopper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
todo wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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The best solution should be to give this boat the place he gained in the wrong fleet, without affecting the score of other competitors in both fleets. This is possible by a RDG, the boat is initially scored as DNS, then a redrss does not affect the results of the others but forces the score of this boat.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ralph Tingle
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Phil
Not totally sure of the facts in the Topper situation so simply opted for DSQ (of some sort) & agree with Laser decision
As this is a World Championship, the Jury would probably be involved
If the decision was to score the boat anyway, this is where I am getting confused with what Seamus has done.
In my mind, the competitor appears as a row in the SW file and has a space for a result.
On this (simple) premise, the race 1 result can be changed to record anything - either automatically calculated (SNW), adjusted (rearrange recorded places) or ‘forced’ through the letter code system
Races 2 onwards will then be added as the regatta progresses
This Topper event has elements of Appendix LE Addendum C (referring to Q & F) but in reality is a simple single series with multiple starts and multiple 1sts, 2nds etc - unless I am missing something
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philippe DE TROY
Sent: 23 July 2008 10:00
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Ralph,
In Laser Standard Europeans, a boat sailed in the wrong fleet, and the score code was DNS as she was in the starting area but failed to pass the starting line between the warning signal (should then have been ranked as OCS) and the closing of the line 4 minutes after the start signal according to the SI’s
Bad luck for this competitor, who finished 3rd and 5th in two races in Yellow fleet on the same day, but was ranked as 45th /50 in Red Fleet as her normal start was 8 minutes earlier, asked for re-scoring, then the RC understood she sailed in the wrong fleet and was downgraded from mid-Silver to Bronze for the finals…
If Seasmus wants to score the boat anyway, can he consider entering the boat a second time as an alias in the fleet she actually sailed?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Tingle
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in the second start instead of the first
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be included in the wrong results sheet ??
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced on the outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested under 28.1 & scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just 'started late', then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no time limit from 1st boat finishing)
I don't understand why you had to re-score her in different fleets & create a clone?????
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply get a finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result should be changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start, moved up a place
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have happened, Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with races 1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all week) & the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of counting races/discards in the finals series
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National Regatta in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
Yes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn't get in the way of sailing ;-)))
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Wow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking the qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind today so I may get a quiet few hours ! I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour (green)in Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in (green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue). The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score the origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of theraces.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for Race
1. Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I'm sure like me you have daytimnejobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@…> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her race
scores
excluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score will
be the
total of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been completed
a boat’s
series score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors shall
retain
at least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from the
final
series when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which used to
stipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed and be
ready to
changed the scoring system discardsTo deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do anything
in this
tab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the qualifying
results finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with th
FFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup from
the
Colour(Fleet) to the Race Start.Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to Ireland,
with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order (ie
as they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start) which I
think is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in b11
with some old Topper sample dataOne option is to export a series summary to via Windows clipboard
You could then play around with the data to produce what you are
looking forSorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or other,
please reply to SeamusRegards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring, you
will now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was set
up
for Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc) but I
cannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x 2nd
etc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup for
Topper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get Sailwave
to
do wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Hi Seamus - my last email for a couple of days
I think this is becoming clear :-/
The boat was allocated to the green fleet by the Race Committee and started correctly with the green fleet
Unfortunately, the Results Officer allocated the boat to the blue fleet in SW (been there, got the T shirt!!)
Having scored the race using SNW, your problem was how do you correct your mistake.
I presume that you have a column in SW which identifies the fleet colour & you have used this column to set up the starts
If you were to change her fleet from blue to green and re-score the series, would this work??
Not sure about this without trying, you might need to do some of the things I suggested to Phil
WRT the Finals
The simplest solution is to add an extra column in SW & name it say ‘Finals’ & add the relevant colour
Then you can then set up Finals starts using this column instead of the Qual colours
If you ever do a Topper event again (or similar LARGE entry fleet) have a look at the importing options for competitors & Race results
Setting up raw data in a spreadsheet and importing into SW is MUCH easier
This tied in with taking backups after each process is much easier to resolve errors
When I do Topper/big events, I get the class to send me the entrants, flight allocations, other data etc in a spreadsheet & a SW file is set up in seconds!!
The trade off on import (decide flight positions manually) or input (SNW sorts positions automatically) needs to be considered.
300 entries should always be imported - race results …??
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seamushand
Sent:
23 July 2008 10:37
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Huw Pearce” <huw.pearce@…> wrote:
Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my
mind as
well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph
being away
I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look
at the
Sailwave file you are working on.Kind regards,
HuwPS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two
days
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in
the second
start instead of the first
ANS: Actually she started in the FirstStart with the Green fleet but
she was scored with the BLue Fleet ( as she was Blue in SW)
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be
included
in the wrong results sheet ??
ANS: Yes ( She carried Greena nd was Blue in SW - Race Office, ie
me , error!)
Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
ANS: Yes - so she appeared in 2nd Place in the results for the Blue
fleet and distorted that result too.
The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced
on the
outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested
under 28.1 &
scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started
late’,
then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no
time limit
from 1st boat finishing)I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different
fleets &
create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply
get a
finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result
should be
changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start,
moved up a
place
ANS: Jury gave here redress to the postion she should be scored in
her correct Green fleet - and to remove her influence on the Blue
fleet. But as I cannot change her colour for just Race 1 ( or can I)
I had to do what I did.
Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have
happened,
Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with
races
1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all
week) &
the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of
counting
races/discards in the finals series
ANS: OK. I’ll work in that - I’m sure the has been thrashed out
before about reassigning fron Red/Blue/Green/Yello to Gold/SIlver so
if you could send me a link top that convewrsation I would be most
grateful
It might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it
necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National
Regatta
in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
ANS: Thankls agin for the help. I have found details for Sally
Harvey, who I assumne is JOhn’s daughter do I will go looking for him
Enjoy the NationslsYes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get
in the
way of sailing ;-)))Regards
Ralph
–
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsWow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking
the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind
today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour
(green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score
the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of
the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for
Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have
daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that
gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on
the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Ralph Tingle” <rat@> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her
race
scoresexcluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score
will
be thetotal of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been
completed
a boat’sseries score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall
retainat least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from
the
finalseries when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which
used tostipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed
and be
ready tochanged the scoring system discards
To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do
anything
in thistab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of
counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifyingresults finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with
thFFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup
from
theColour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ieas they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start)
which Ithink is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in
b11with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboardYou could then play around with the data to produce what you
arelooking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,please reply to Seamus
Regards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamus— In sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
youwill now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
upfor Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but Icannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2ndetc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup
forTopper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
todo wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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Ralph & Seamus,
You can reassign for the Final Series groupings (Gold, Silver & Bronze) without creating a dummy column. I just have to go and remind my self how.
Kind regards,
Huw
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 11:05
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
Hi Seamus - my last email for a couple of days
I think this is becoming clear :-/
The boat was allocated to the green fleet by the Race Committee and started correctly with the green fleet
Unfortunately, the Results Officer allocated the boat to the blue fleet in SW (been there, got the T shirt!!)
Having scored the race using SNW, your problem was how do you correct your mistake.
I presume that you have a column in SW which identifies the fleet colour & you have used this column to set up the starts
If you were to change her fleet from blue to green and re-score the series, would this work??
Not sure about this without trying, you might need to do some of the things I suggested to Phil
WRT the Finals
The simplest solution is to add an extra column in SW & name it say ‘Finals’ & add the relevant colour
Then you can then set up Finals starts using this column instead of the Qual colours
If you ever do a Topper event again (or similar LARGE entry fleet) have a look at the importing options for competitors & Race results
Setting up raw data in a spreadsheet and importing into SW is MUCH easier
This tied in with taking backups after each process is much easier to resolve errors
When I do Topper/big events, I get the class to send me the entrants, flight allocations, other data etc in a spreadsheet & a SW file is set up in seconds!!
The trade off on import (decide flight positions manually) or input (SNW sorts positions automatically) needs to be considered.
300 entries should always be imported - race results …??
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] ** On Behalf Of** seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 10:37
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets
— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Huw Pearce” <huw.pearce@…> wrote:
Seamus,
I agree with all the points raised by Ralph, they had crossed my
mind as
well but I could not think how to express them. Regarding Ralph
being away
I am around if you feel it would be useful for someone else to look
at the
Sailwave file you are working on.Kind regards,
HuwPS - Ralph have a great time at the NSAA regatta, but only away two
days
-----Original Message-----
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Ralph Tingle
Sent: 23 July 2008 09:25
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
If I understand your problem correctly, a Blue boat started in
the second
start instead of the first
ANS: Actually she started in the FirstStart with the Green fleet but
she was scored with the BLue Fleet ( as she was Blue in SW)
Did she also fly a green ribbon in error which caused her to be
included
in the wrong results sheet ??
ANS: Yes ( She carried Greena nd was Blue in SW - Race Office, ie
me , error!)Was she set up as a blue boat in SW???
ANS: Yes - so she appeared in 2nd Place in the results for the Blue
fleet and distorted that result too.The SIs are not absolutely clear but I presume that start 1 raced
on the
outer loop & start 2 raced the inner loop
If the boat sailed the wrong course, she should be protested
under 28.1 &
scored DSQ (assuming protest committee came to this decision).
Alternatively, if she sailed the proper course but just ‘started
late’,
then she would be scored as last place in her correct start. (no
time limit
from 1st boat finishing)I don’t understand why you had to re-score her in different
fleets &
create a clone???
All the competitors are in the same series (file) & they simply
get a
finishing position
On the assumption that she sailed the wrong course, her result
should be
changed to DSQ & the other boats behind her in the same start,
moved up a
place
ANS: Jury gave here redress to the postion she should be scored in
her correct Green fleet - and to remove her influence on the Blue
fleet. But as I cannot change her colour for just Race 1 ( or can I)
I had to do what I did.Whilst trying to write this email & make sense of what may have
happened,
Huw has been send replies as well.
I agree with Huw that this whole event should be in one file with
races
1-6 as Qualifying races & the rest as Finals
From a Results Officer point of view it is one single series (all
week) &
the only issue you need to consider is the one about number of
counting
races/discards in the finals series
ANS: OK. I’ll work in that - I’m sure the has been thrashed out
before about reassigning fron Red/Blue/Green/Yello to Gold/SIlver so
if you could send me a link top that convewrsation I would be most
gratefulIt might be worth sending a copy of your .blw file if you feel it
necessary.
However, I am leaving home about 11:00 to go to the NSSA National
Regatta
in Derbyshire
Will be back at my computer Thursday evening
ANS: Thankls agin for the help. I have found details for Sally
Harvey, who I assumne is JOhn’s daughter do I will go looking for him
Enjoy the NationslsYes I do work (part-time) but try & make sure that it doesn’t get
in the
way of sailing ;-)))Regards
Ralph
–
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 23 July 2008 08:48
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsWow - that’s impressive service!
ThanksI will be building the Final series today and importing/linking
the
qualifying etc. after I do some reading. There is little wind
today
so I may get a quiet few hours !I had a competitor that sailed under the wrong fleet colour
(green)in
Race 1 (0nly)so I had to rescore her in the fleet she sailed in
(green) rather than the one she was initially scored in (Blue).
The only way I could do this was to create a clone and score the
clone as Green for Race 1 and DNC for the other races and score
the
origional sailor as DNC for Race 1 and normal for the balance of
the
races.
This fixes the Blue fleet, whose results she messed up, but I then
have to manually adjust her result at add her and the clone for
Race
- Is there a simpler way? Then I can have a non manually adjusted
qualifying result to go into the Finals.Thanks for all your hekp to date - I’m sure like me you have
daytimne
jobs!
Results to date are on www.traleebaysailingclub.com ( thyey are
the
FFREQ results but we habe used both systems with independent data
entry and scoring - and they both agreed line by line !So that
gave
us great conficence in the results. I hope to get a SW version on
the
web for the final results !— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , “Ralph Tingle” <rat@> wrote:
Hi Seamus
Looking at the event SIs, the relevant paras are as follows:If 3 races are completed a boat’s score will be the total of her
race
scores. When from 4 to 7 races have
been completed a boat’s series score will be the total of her
race
scoresexcluding her worst score. When
from 8 to 11 races have been completed a boat’s series score
will
be thetotal of her race scores excluding
her two worst scores. When from 12 to 15 races have been
completed
a boat’sseries score will be the
total of her race scores excluding her three worst scores.This means that you set a normal discard profile
The next relevant paras state:
Up to 6 races may be sailed in the Qualifying Series
In the Final Series up to 9 races may be sailed.Discards may be applied to either series however, competitors
shall
retainat least one race from the final
series when 8 to 11 races have been completed and 2 races from
the
finalseries when 12 or more races
have been completed.This is where your SIs start to vary from Appendix LE which
used tostipulate that the maximum number of discards in the Finals
You will need to keep an eye on how many races are completed
and be
ready tochanged the scoring system discards
To deal with this switch on Appendix LE in the Pro version
This adds a new tab in the scoring system where you can set the
maximum
number of discards in the Finals
If you complete your race schedule, you don’t need to do
anything
in thistab (don’t switch Q&F on)
If everything goes pear-shaped ;-( you can play around with the
number of
discards in the finals to achieve the required number of
counting
racesAlso, as Huw says, you MUST use the latest build
Regards
Ralph
From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of seamushand
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:29
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleets— In sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com, Paul
Craig <sailtastic@> wrote:
Hi Paul,I’m not sure but I will check in the morning. We got the
qualifyingresults finished this evening and the results agreed 100% with
thFFREQ so that gave us create confidence in the results.
Ralph,
I did as you suggested and used a Vlookup in Excel to find the
colout
from the Sail # and the start ( for that race) with a lookup
from
theColour(Fleet) to the Race Start.
Thank you both for your help.
Next step is how to do the discards across both qualifying and
final -
but that is tomorrows problem !Seamus
Seamus,
Is John Harvey out there with you ?
If so John was Beta testing B11 before travelling out to
Ireland,with the purpose of using it during the Topper Worlds in case of
any
problems. He might be able to help you out.Paul
To: sailwave@: rat@: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:47:20 +0100Subject:
RE: [sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsHi Seamus
I’m struggling with this one, especially using publish
At one time, the results could be printed out in finish order
(ieas they all crossed the line, whatever the fleet or start)
which Ithink is what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to re-create this in
b11with some old Topper sample data
One option is to export a series summary to via Windows
clipboardYou could then play around with the data to produce what you
arelooking for
Sorry I can’t get you any further with this
If anyone else has the solution - either via publishing or
other,please reply to Seamus
Regards
RalphFrom: sailwave@yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] On
Behalf Of seamushandSent: 22 July 2008 11:20To: sailwave@:
[sailwave] Re: Topper Scoring using fleetsRalph,Thanks for that . I got that working. Any obvious way to
see
results by RaceStart? I can get results by Fleet or Race but not
RaceStart which is what the conpetitors issue their queries
against.ThanksSeamu s— In sailwave@yahoogroup
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups. com> s.com, “Ralph Tingle”
<rat@> wrote:>> Hi Seamus> Click on User Interface> Select Pro &
tick
Split Starts …> Then click Scoring System & in Race Scoring,
youwill now see the option for> multiple 1sts, 2nds etc> > You may
also
need to tick 8.2 applies to boats in the same start> This was
set
upfor Topper Nationwide but you need to check your SIs> > > >
_____ > > From: sailwave@yahoogroup
mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com s.com
[mailto:sailwave@ yahoogroup mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
s.com] OnOf seamushand> Sent: 20
July 2008 21:16> To: sailwave@yahoogroup <mailto:sailwave%
40yahoogroups.com>
s.com> Subject: [sailwave]
Topper Scoring using fleets> > > > Hi,> > I have set up 4 fleet
colours and assigned Race1 as Race1Start1 ( > Red&Blue) amd
Race1Start2 (Green and Yellow).> > I can get results for a)The
Entire
Series (1x1st, 2nd etc) and b)Each > Fleet (4x1st, 2x2nd etc)
but Icannot get the result by race which is > what I need (2x1st, 2x
2ndetc).> > Any help appreciated - I am using Sailwave as backup
forTopper Worlds > ( FREQ as 1st Reporting) but I cannot get
Sailwave
todo wwhat I need > witht the fleets> > Thanks> Seamus>
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