US Opti red white and blue fleet scoring

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HI All,

I just discovered the the US Optimist Dinghy organization scores red blue and white fleet as a group and then scores them as individual fleets. However, they don�t actually rescore the fleet separately� rather they just map the relative positions in the overall standing to 1 through 10 in the respective fleet.

Basically, they decided that rescoring would confuse the kids when somebody below them in the overall standings winds up above them in the fleet scoring.

Is there anyway to do this now in Sailwave? Thanks

Mark

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Hi Mark,

Scoring optis is one of my speciality... Sure, you can score in almost any
way. I have once used scored by club in a serie with over 4 classes. Just
because we sailed Club champions together with our neighbourclub.

The you decide what to see when publishing, there are all the features you
need

Regards
Anders Landenstad
www.juniorsegling.se

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Subject: [sailwave] US Opti red white and blue fleet scoring

HI All,

I just discovered the the US Optimist Dinghy organization scores red blue
and white fleet as a group and then scores them as individual fleets.
However, they don't actually rescore the fleet separately. rather they just

map the relative positions in the overall standing to 1 through 10 in the
respective fleet.

Basically, they decided that rescoring would confuse the kids when somebody
below them in the overall standings winds up above them in the fleet
scoring.

Is there anyway to do this now in Sailwave? Thanks

Mark

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Hi Anders

What exaclty do I change?
When I score by fleet, the Red fleet standings could shuffle compared to the overall. This is what they don't want me to do.

Is the button that I click ... "allow multiple first seconds etc to stand." ?

That brings up another question how would you score overall and then by club with red white and blue fleets for each club while also keeping the rank position of the overall as your score for each of the sub events.

Thanks
Mark

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From: "Anders Landenstad" <anders@juniorsegling.se>
Reply-To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [sailwave] US Opti red white and blue fleet scoring
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:13:36 +0100

Hi Mark,

Scoring optis is one of my speciality... Sure, you can score in almost any

way. I have once used scored by club in a serie with over 4 classes. Just

because we sailed Club champions together with our neighbourclub.

The you decide what to see when publishing, there are all the features you

need

Regards

Anders Landenstad

www.juniorsegling.se

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Subject: [sailwave] US Opti red white and blue fleet scoring

HI All,

I just discovered the the US Optimist Dinghy organization scores red blue

and white fleet as a group and then scores them as individual fleets.�

However,� they don't actually rescore the fleet separately. rather they just

map the relative positions in the overall standing to 1 through 10 in the

respective fleet.

Basically, they decided that rescoring would confuse the kids when somebody

below them in the overall standings� winds up above them in the fleet

scoring.

Is there anyway to do this now in Sailwave?� Thanks

Mark

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Hi Mark

I'd suggest exporting the overall results to an Excel spread sheet. Once in spread sheet format you can sort by fleet without changing any of the other scoring information.

By the way, my first involvement with scoring was an Optimist regatta. In a sort of last minute way I got pulled in to be the chief score keeper at the 2004 US Opti Nationals. I used a program called St. Pete's Scorer For Optis. This program was set up specifically for Opti events. It would publish exactly the kind of information you are looking for. But the program was not really designed for an event the size of the US Nationals! There were over 400 participants. over the course of 4 days there were something like 16 races with four flights per race. Once the finish order was plugged in, a 2.4 GH Pentium 4 churned away for about 10 minutes!

Has anyone here used Sailwave for an event of that size? I've been wondering how it would have performed.

After the Opti Nationals I was asked to act as score keeper for the Bellport Bay Yacht Club's 2004 Labor Day series. It was a much smaller event (about 65 boats). I wound up using St. Pete's for the Optis, and Sailwave for the other fleets. Despite my best efforts, I wound up getting asked to be the Season Scorer for the local YRA, which is why I joined the Sailwave users group.

Regards,
Al Guardino
Great South Bay YRA
Long Island, NY

Mark Schneider wrote:

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HI All,

I just discovered the the US Optimist Dinghy organization scores red blue and white fleet as a group and then scores them as individual fleets. However, they don�t actually rescore the fleet separately� rather they just map the relative positions in the overall standing to 1 through 10 in the respective fleet.

Basically, they decided that rescoring would confuse the kids when somebody below them in the overall standings winds up above them in the fleet scoring.

Is there anyway to do this now in Sailwave? Thanks

Mark

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Hi Mark,

I just discovered the the US Optimist Dinghy organization scores red blue
and white fleet as a group and then scores them as individual fleets.
However, they don�t actually rescore the fleet separately�
rather they just
map the relative positions in the overall standing to 1 through 10 in the
respective fleet.

Basically, they decided that rescoring would confuse the kids
when somebody
below them in the overall standings winds up above them in the fleet
scoring.

Is there anyway to do this now in Sailwave? Thanks

Mark

Currenrly you have to score everybody as one group then sort the list by
points withint fleet (you can sort on two columns, one within the other)
say - you dont get 1,2,3 per fleet but they are grouped in the right order
and you can use another field to show say the first 1 2 3 in each fleet.

I do intend to automate this sort of thing as an extracted results facility.

Regards,
Colin
www.sailwave.com

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