Use of Sailwave Results Folder - Simple Question

We encountered a simililar issue in posting SW results to a Wordpress site. Standard 'simple' FTP access was not permitted. However, after some delving, it transpired that it was possible through WinSCP. It was simple enough to set up Sailwave to use this as an application and lo! everything worked, just not quite as seamlessly. Happy to provide details if required.

However, in a different scenario, I post results to my 'convenient' website, but have links to those file locations from a site which uses Wordpress. When we currently try to access those files from the Wordpress created site, it complains about my site being 'not secure' (both Chrome and Opera, at least, whinge). As I understand it, being not secure means that passwords, credit card numbers etc might be purloined. Needless to say, the 'not secure' site is not a commercial site and offers nothing which would require passwords or credit card details, and imho does not have to be 'secure' in this sense. The option is obviously there to implement SSL, but I'm uncomfortabe in spending my Club's money needlessly (it's a genetic thing).

The common factor is Wordpress, but I can't believe that this (basically a front-end) demands the extra levels of security.

The ‘not secure’ (both Chrome, edge, IE and Opera, is that the site is not using https with a certificate. You can get a free certificate from https://letsencrypt.org/ or a cheep one from
https://www.namecheap.com/

This will happen more and more

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Mark L. Aronson
(603) 432-1603

http://www.linkedin.com/in/marklaronson

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 4:47 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Use of Sailwave Results Folder - Simple Question

We encountered a simililar issue in posting SW results to a Wordpress

site. Standard ‘simple’ FTP access was not permitted. However, after
some delving, it transpired that it was possible through WinSCP. It was
simple enough to set up Sailwave to use this as an application and lo!
everything worked, just not quite as seamlessly. Happy to provide
details if required.

However, in a different scenario, I post results to my ‘convenient’
website, but have links to those file locations from a site which uses
Wordpress. When we currently try to access those files from the
Wordpress created site, it complains about my site being ‘not secure’
(both Chrome and Opera, at least, whinge). As I understand it, being not
secure means that passwords, credit card numbers etc might be purloined.
Needless to say, the ‘not secure’ site is not a commercial site and
offers nothing which would require passwords or credit card details, and
imho does not have to be ‘secure’ in this sense. The option is obviously
there to implement SSL, but I’m uncomfortabe in spending my Club’s money
needlessly (it’s a genetic thing).

The common factor is Wordpress, but I can’t believe that this (basically
a front-end) demands the extra levels of security.

It’s worth checking with your web hosting provider as a lot offer free SSL. Just a case of turning it on and adjusting Wordpress accordingly

We found it was a relatively straightforward process

William Carruthers

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On 11 Jan 2019, at 11:01, Mark Aronson mark@mlans.net [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

The ‘not secure’ (both Chrome, edge, IE and Opera, is that the site is not using https with a certificate. You can get a free certificate from https://letsencrypt.org/ or a cheep one from
https://www.namecheap.com/

This will happen more and more

Mark L. Aronson

(603) 432-1603

http://www.linkedin.com/in/marklaronson

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 4:47 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Use of Sailwave Results Folder - Simple Question

We encountered a simililar issue in posting SW results to a Wordpress

site. Standard ‘simple’ FTP access was not permitted. However, after

some delving, it transpired that it was possible through WinSCP. It was

simple enough to set up Sailwave to use this as an application and lo!

everything worked, just not quite as seamlessly. Happy to provide

details if required.

However, in a different scenario, I post results to my ‘convenient’

website, but have links to those file locations from a site which uses

Wordpress. When we currently try to access those files from the

Wordpress created site, it complains about my site being ‘not secure’

(both Chrome and Opera, at least, whinge). As I understand it, being not

secure means that passwords, credit card numbers etc might be purloined.

Needless to say, the ‘not secure’ site is not a commercial site and

offers nothing which would require passwords or credit card details, and

imho does not have to be ‘secure’ in this sense. The option is obviously

there to implement SSL, but I’m uncomfortabe in spending my Club’s money

needlessly (it’s a genetic thing).

The common factor is Wordpress, but I can’t believe that this (basically

a front-end) demands the extra levels of security.

Malcolm,

Two thoughts: The ‘not secure’ flag comes from your browser. Everyone is concerned nowadays about web security, so the browser manufacturers are displaying the warning note. Of course, as you point out, who cares? But it’s not so great. And it’s not the fault of Wordpress, most likely.

Secondly, depending on who is hosting your local site, they might be able to give you a secure login at little or no charge. Many hosting companies are throwing in the https login, and some just make it automatic. You could test it by trying https://www.yoursitename.com. Might work out of the box.

jrc

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John R Culter
Medinet Vancouver
604 742-8832 or 604 908-3118 mobile

Getting a certificate (https) for your web site costs about $75.00 per year in Canada; not a big deal for most clubs. At present most web browsers will just warn you about un-secured sites. Soon they will reject them. Translation: Do it now, but before you have to.

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From: John Culter jrculter@gmail.com [sailwave]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 9:28 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Use of Sailwave Results Folder - Simple Question

Malcolm,

Two thoughts: The ‘not secure’ flag comes from your browser. Everyone is concerned nowadays about web security, so the browser manufacturers are displaying the warning note. Of course, as you point out, who cares? But it’s not so great. And it’s not the fault of Wordpress, most likely.

Secondly, depending on who is hosting your local site, they might be able to give you a secure login at little or no charge. Many hosting companies are throwing in the https login, and some just make it automatic. You could test it by trying https://www.yoursitename.com. Might work out of the box.

jrc

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:47 AM malcolm clark mclark2222@yahoo.co.uk [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

We encountered a simililar issue in posting SW results to a Wordpress
site. Standard ‘simple’ FTP access was not permitted. However, after
some delving, it transpired that it was possible through WinSCP. It was
simple enough to set up Sailwave to use this as an application and lo!
everything worked, just not quite as seamlessly. Happy to provide
details if required.

However, in a different scenario, I post results to my ‘convenient’
website, but have links to those file locations from a site which uses
Wordpress. When we currently try to access those files from the
Wordpress created site, it complains about my site being ‘not secure’
(both Chrome and Opera, at least, whinge). As I understand it, being not
secure means that passwords, credit card numbers etc might be purloined.
Needless to say, the ‘not secure’ site is not a commercial site and
offers nothing which would require passwords or credit card details, and
imho does not have to be ‘secure’ in this sense. The option is obviously
there to implement SSL, but I’m uncomfortabe in spending my Club’s money
needlessly (it’s a genetic thing).

The common factor is Wordpress, but I can’t believe that this (basically
a front-end) demands the extra levels of security.


Posted by: malcolm clark mclark2222@gmail.com

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John R Culter Medinet Vancouver 604 742-8832 or 604 908-3118 mobile

Hi Kirk - As someone else has posted you can get a Let’s Encrypt certificate free - Let’s Encrypt is sponsored by Google and some others I believe.

I’m using Let’s Encrypt on the Sailwave site.

If you or your webadmin has control of the server then this is an easy an free way to go as long as you count your time as free.

If the website is being hosted for you then you are dependent upon what they are offering.

Jon

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Jon Eskdale

03333 443377

07530 112233

Hi Kirk,

as it happen I have just encrypted my SC site rbsc.org.uk using free Lets-Encrypt cert,

My host has a 1 click option to install the certificate so if your doesn’t suggest they do. The article I used is https://themeisle.com/ blog/add-wordpress-https/ the plugin sorts out all the clever stuff and help the article help sort out google search bits and bobs. I had a couple of issues with unencrypted bits a weather underground widget and my webcam, fixed by turning off mixed content fixer in plugin until I update webcam firmware! So for now a 95% encrypted site. Good luck

Keith

Good, we started moving over last year and as you say, it was quick and easy. Took us a while to twig to the redirect switch.

Hope it works out well for you.

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From: keithsykes69@yahoo.com [sailwave]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:52 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Use of Sailwave Results Folder - Simple Question

Hi Kirk,

as it happen I have just encrypted my SC site rbsc.org.uk using free Lets-Encrypt cert,

My host has a 1 click option to install the certificate so if your doesn’t suggest they do. The article I used is https://themeisle.com/ blog/add-wordpress-https/ the plugin sorts out all the clever stuff and help the article help sort out google search bits and bobs. I had a couple of issues with unencrypted bits a weather underground widget and my webcam, fixed by turning off mixed content fixer in plugin until I update webcam firmware! So for now a 95% encrypted site. Good luck

Keith