Use Sailwave to score qualfying races

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1

They have changed the format of the qualifying process.

They want to to use a round robin without reassignments.

The competitors will be divided into four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

Second day same as above

Results of Round Robin create a final with two fleets

Final score will be best five of qualifying and best five of finals

My understanding that say, in race, start 1, red & green are racing against each other so then need to be scored as a unit, i.e., only one first amongst read & green in this race, one second, etc.

While in race 2, red and yellow, would be the unit.

How do I setup this round robin in Sailwave?

2

You should be able to use flights - so just set R1 flight (a) to Red and Green competitors and flight (b) to Yellow and Blue then similarly for the other races. So essentially very similar to procedure for normal qualifiers and finals. If you send me your file I’ll set it up for you later in the week when I’m home - Jon

···

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 26 October 2014 22:04, egd@securefail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

They have changed the format of the qualifying process.

They want to to use a round robin without reassignments.

The competitors will be divided into four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

Second day same as above

Results of Round Robin create a final with two fleets

Final score will be best five of qualifying and best five of finals

My understanding that say, in race, start 1, red & green are racing against each other so then need to be scored as a unit, i.e., only one first amongst read & green in this race, one second, etc.

While in race 2, red and yellow, would be the unit.

How do I setup this round robin in Sailwave?

3

I will and can however the regatta starts on Friday

I am assuming that I assign each competitor to a fleet of red, yellow, green or blue and use the competitor selection box to build the flights for each race

Or is this done differently or completely manually?

Do I score as group or

···

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 26 October 2014 22:04, egd@securefail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

They have changed the format of the qualifying process.

They want to to use a round robin without reassignments.

The competitors will be divided into four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

Second day same as above

Results of Round Robin create a final with two fleets

Final score will be best five of qualifying and best five of finals

My understanding that say, in race, start 1, red & green are racing against each other so then need to be scored as a unit, i.e., only one first amongst read & green in this race, one second, etc.

While in race 2, red and yellow, would be the unit.

How do I setup this round robin in Sailwave?

4

I would probably use division to hold red green yellow blue. Then use the flight assignment tool to set the flights the rest is as per normal. I’ll be home Wednesday afternoon Jon

···

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 26 October 2014 22:04, egd@securefail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

They have changed the format of the qualifying process.

They want to to use a round robin without reassignments.

The competitors will be divided into four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

Second day same as above

Results of Round Robin create a final with two fleets

Final score will be best five of qualifying and best five of finals

My understanding that say, in race, start 1, red & green are racing against each other so then need to be scored as a unit, i.e., only one first amongst read & green in this race, one second, etc.

While in race 2, red and yellow, would be the unit.

How do I setup this round robin in Sailwave?

5

Hi Gareth,

As Jon is a bit busy on business I am willing to help, Jon and I

work together a lot with Sailwave.

Couple of things I have picked up in this thread:

  •     Discard profile - this needs to specified as the overall

    discard profile and the profile for the F-series. There is no
    separate profile for Q-series.

  •     As you are having a Q-series and F-series you need to be

    careful with terminology. Flights or round robin colour groups
    are best called flights in the Q-series. and the use Fleets in
    the F-series.
    How is the assignment to the colour groups (Red, Green, Yellow
    & Blue) going to be done? If it is going to be done by the
    organisers and you have the entrants in a spreadsheet which contains
    the colour group assignment for each competitor, you can save
    yourself a lot of typing. It is easy to import competitors into
    Sailwave from a CSV file, just need a little care on choosing which
    Sailwave fields to import the data into!

    Once the competitors are in Sailwave with their assigned colour
    group in a Sailwave field BUT NOT Flight field, it will be easy to
    use the flight assignment tool to correctly set Sailwave up. Just
    need to then say use this flight for all races in Q-series.

    In each race you will need to have 2 starts in each race. For the
    Q-series you will need to specify which colour group pairs are each
    start. REMEMBER that in the select competitors window that you MUST
    place the colour group selections above each as you need the boolean
    ‘OR’ selection not ‘AND’, which is side by side.

    You will also have to make sure you have the multiple 1sts, 2nds
    functionality enabled and configured.

    Mark Townsend’s guide which is linked to in the footer of most SUG
    messages will be a very useful read as it covers what you are
    wanting to do, except for the discard profile.

    Look forward to hearing from you.

    Kind regards,

    Huw

···

On 27/10/2014 14:29, Edward Graham
Dougall [sailwave] wrote:

egd@securefail.com

          I will and can however the regatta starts on

Friday

          I am assuming that I assign each competitor to

a fleet of red, yellow, green or blue and use the
competitor selection box to build the flights for each
race

          Or is this done differently or completely

manually?

Do I score as group or

          On Oct 27, 2014 10:00 AM, "Jon

Eskdale jon@sailwave.com
[sailwave]" <sailwave@yahoogroups.com >
wrote:

                You should be able to use flights - so

just set R1 flight (a) to Red and Green competitors
and flight (b) to Yellow and Blue then similarly for
the other races. So essentially very similar to
procedure for normal qualifiers and finals. If you
send me your file I’ll set it up for you later in
the week when I’m home - Jon

Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 26 October 2014 22:04, egd@securefail.com
[sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

                              They have changed the format of the

qualifying process.

                              They want to to use a round robin

without reassignments.

                              The competitors will be divided into

four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

                              Second day same as above

                              Results of Round Robin create a final

with two fleets

                              Final score will be best five of

qualifying and best five of finals

                              My understanding that say, in race,

start 1, red & green are racing
against each other so then need to be
scored as a unit, i.e., only one first
amongst read & green in this race,
one second, etc.

                              While in race 2, red and yellow, would

be the unit.

                              How do I setup this round robin in

Sailwave?


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6

Thanks for your help.

After figuring out the round robin process and running through a test regatta that seemed to work, they are going back to Appendix LE Addendum C. So I will run through a test regatta using that tomorrow.

7

Thanks for both of you advice.

Using it I was able to do a test run successfully all the way through qualifying and finals for round robin method.

At which point the regatta OA decided to use Appendix LE Addendum C. I have been able to run a successful test of that method as well.

Thanks again.

···

Thanks

Edward Graham Dougall, ABCP, AMBCI, CISSP, FLMI,

The answer to the question is either 42 or it depends!

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Sent: 27-Oct-14 11:01
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Use Sailwave to score qualfying races

Hi Gareth,

As Jon is a bit busy on business I am willing to help, Jon and I work together a lot with Sailwave.

Couple of things I have picked up in this thread:

  • Discard profile - this needs to specified as the overall discard profile and the profile for the F-series. There is no separate profile for Q-series.

  • As you are having a Q-series and F-series you need to be careful with terminology. Flights or round robin colour groups are best called flights in the Q-series. and the use Fleets in the F-series.

How is the assignment to the colour groups (Red, Green, Yellow & Blue) going to be done? If it is going to be done by the organisers and you have the entrants in a spreadsheet which contains the colour group assignment for each competitor, you can save yourself a lot of typing. It is easy to import competitors into Sailwave from a CSV file, just need a little care on choosing which Sailwave fields to import the data into!

Once the competitors are in Sailwave with their assigned colour group in a Sailwave field BUT NOT Flight field, it will be easy to use the flight assignment tool to correctly set Sailwave up. Just need to then say use this flight for all races in Q-series.

In each race you will need to have 2 starts in each race. For the Q-series you will need to specify which colour group pairs are each start. REMEMBER that in the select competitors window that you MUST place the colour group selections above each as you need the boolean ‘OR’ selection not ‘AND’, which is side by side.

You will also have to make sure you have the multiple 1sts, 2nds functionality enabled and configured.

Mark Townsend’s guide which is linked to in the footer of most SUG messages will be a very useful read as it covers what you are wanting to do, except for the discard profile.

Look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
Huw

On 27/10/2014 14:29, Edward Graham Dougall egd@securefail.com [sailwave] wrote:

I will and can however the regatta starts on Friday

I am assuming that I assign each competitor to a fleet of red, yellow, green or blue and use the competitor selection box to build the flights for each race

Or is this done differently or completely manually?

Do I score as group or

On Oct 27, 2014 10:00 AM, “Jon Eskdale jon@sailwave.com [sailwave]” sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

You should be able to use flights - so just set R1 flight (a) to Red and Green competitors and flight (b) to Yellow and Blue then similarly for the other races. So essentially very similar to procedure for normal qualifiers and finals. If you send me your file I’ll set it up for you later in the week when I’m home - Jon

Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

On 26 October 2014 22:04, egd@securefail.com [sailwave] sailwave@yahoogroups.com wrote:

They have changed the format of the qualifying process.

They want to to use a round robin without reassignments.

The competitors will be divided into four groups, red, green, blue, yellow
.
Race 1
Start 1 red & green
Start 2 blue & yellow
Race 2
Start 1 red & yellow
Start 2 blue & green
Race 3
Start 1 red & blue
Start 2 green & yellow

Second day same as above

Results of Round Robin create a final with two fleets

Final score will be best five of qualifying and best five of finals

My understanding that say, in race, start 1, red & green are racing against each other so then need to be scored as a unit, i.e., only one first amongst read & green in this race, one second, etc.

While in race 2, red and yellow, would be the unit.

How do I setup this round robin in Sailwave?

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