New RYA PYs published for 2013

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1

Hi all,

New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

2

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

3

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne <malcolmo@...> wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> last year!
>
> See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
>
> Nick
>
>

4

Oops, that should read "Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Tera Pros this year?"
Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "familyberry" <stewart@...> wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne <malcolmo@> wrote:
>
> Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
> and Fireball getting faster!
>
> The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
>
> regards,
> Malcolm Osborne
> Sedgefield South Africa
>
> On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> > last year!
> >
> > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
>

5

The published number (by RS) for the Tera Pro is 1390, which we've been using for a couple of years.

A Tera Pro won a recent event against Lasers and a Fireball, which could indicate that the rating is a bit generous, but in other events, when the lad sails against our top Optimist sailor, he comes second!

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2013/03/02 23:17, familyberry wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
>
> Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
> and Fireball getting faster!
>
> The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
>
> regards,
> Malcolm Osborne
> Sedgefield South Africa
>
> On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> > last year!
> >
> > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
> >
> > Nick
> >
>

6

Interesting.
We've been using 1369 which I managed to squeeze out of the RYA this time last year.

Any other offers?

Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne <malcolmo@...> wrote:

The published number (by RS) for the Tera Pro is 1390, which we've been
using for a couple of years.

A Tera Pro won a recent event against Lasers and a Fireball, which could
indicate that the rating is a bit generous, but in other events, when
the lad sails against our top Optimist sailor, he comes second!

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 23:17, familyberry wrote:
>
> Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the
> parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
> Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
> regards
> Stewart
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Malcolm Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
> > and Fireball getting faster!
> >
> > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
> >
> > regards,
> > Malcolm Osborne
> > Sedgefield South Africa
> >
> > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> > > last year!
> > >
> > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

7

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

···

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” stewart@stewartberry.co.uk wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

8

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Ian Payne

To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” <stewart@stewartberry.co.uk > wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?

regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com , Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

9

Thanks fo rthat Ian. Was that the UK Tera Class Sec?

What are you proposing to use for 2013?

It has been suggested at me club that if the Sport went doen by 4 then we should also reduce the Pro by 4.

Thoughts anyone?

regards
Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Ian Payne <Ian.Payne@...> wrote:

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
> Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
> regards
> Stewart
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
> > and Fireball getting faster!
> >
> > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
> >
> > regards,
> > Malcolm Osborne
> > Sedgefield South Africa
> >
> > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> > > last year!
> > >
> > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

10

George,
For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:

TOPAZ UNO 1236
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169

For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we'll be using the above for 2013 too.

regards
Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@...> wrote:

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ian Payne
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

  I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

  Regards
  Ian

  On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@...> wrote:

    Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
    Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
    regards
    Stewart

    --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
    >
    > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
    > and Fireball getting faster!
    >
    > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
    >
    > regards,
    > Malcolm Osborne
    > Sedgefield South Africa
    >
    > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
    > > last year!
    > >
    > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
    > >
    > > Nick
    > >
    > >
    >

11

I would be interested in what the RS Tera Pro PN is please

Regards

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On 3 Mar 2013, at 15:32, “familyberry” stewart@stewartberry.co.uk wrote:

George,
For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:

TOPAZ UNO 1236
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169

For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we’ll be using the above for 2013 too.

regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “George Morris” wrote:

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

12

Yes uk class sec. We will continue to use 1370. The two sail should be treated separately. I suggest you use the numbers as trial numbers and if you got several good sailors sailing them you can adjust if required.

Regards
Ian

···

On 3 Mar 2013, at 15:27, “familyberry” stewart@stewartberry.co.uk wrote:

Thanks fo rthat Ian. Was that the UK Tera Class Sec?

What are you proposing to use for 2013?

It has been suggested at me club that if the Sport went doen by 4 then we should also reduce the Pro by 4.

Thoughts anyone?

regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Ian Payne wrote:

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

13

Thanks for that. I shall now have to take a diploma in Topaz variants. Up to now we have basically said that if it has a gennaker it gets the same as a Feva, if it has one person/one sail it gets 1236 and a bit more if it has a second person on board. Does the jib actually do anything - it doesn't look very big!

rgds

George

···

----- Original Message ----- From: "familyberry" <stewart@stewartberry.co.uk>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

George,
For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:

TOPAZ UNO 1236
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169

For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we'll be using the above for 2013 too.

regards
Stewart

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@...> wrote:

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris
  ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Payne
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

  I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

  Regards
  Ian

  On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@...> wrote:

    Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
    Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
    regards
    Stewart

    --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
    >
    > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
    > and Fireball getting faster!
    >
    > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
    >
    > regards,
    > Malcolm Osborne
    > Sedgefield South Africa
    >
    > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
    > > last year!
    > >
    > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
    > >
    > > Nick
    > >
    >

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George,
As I recall:
Topaz Uno Race is the same as the baic Uno but is sailed with a Mylar fully battened sail
Topaz Uno Race X is the same as the Topaz Uno Race with the addition of an asymentric sail.
Hope that helps.
regards
Stewart

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@...> wrote:

Thanks for that. I shall now have to take a diploma in Topaz variants. Up to
now we have basically said that if it has a gennaker it gets the same as a
Feva, if it has one person/one sail it gets 1236 and a bit more if it has a
second person on board. Does the jib actually do anything - it doesn't look
very big!

rgds

George
----- Original Message -----
From: "familyberry" <stewart@...>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

> George,
> For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:
>
> TOPAZ UNO 1236
> TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
> TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
> TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
> TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
> TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169
>
> For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we'll be using the above
> for 2013 too.
>
> regards
> Stewart
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@>
> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?
>>
>> rgds
>>
>> George Morris
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ian Payne
>> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ian
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the
>> parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
>> Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
>> regards
>> Stewart
>>
>> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
>> >
>> > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend,
>> Finn
>> > and Fireball getting faster!
>> >
>> > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Malcolm Osborne
>> > Sedgefield South Africa
>> >
>> > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which
>> +12 on
>> > > last year!
>> > >
>> > > See here
>> http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
>> > >
>> > > Nick
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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15

Thanks fo rthat Ian. Was that the UK Tera Class Sec?

What are you proposing to use for 2013?

It has been suggested at me club that if the Sport went doen by 4 then we should also reduce the Pro by 4.

That DOES NOT follow. The Sport has ‘speeded up’ because people sailing it have gained more experience. People move to the pro rig when they are already experienced…

···

On 2013-03-03 15:27, familyberry wrote:

Thoughts anyone?

regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Ian Payne wrote:

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
last year!

See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

16

We have quite a big fleet of Topaz’s at Derwent.

We currently race them off:

···

On 2013-03-03 15:31, familyberry wrote:

TOPAZ UNO 1236 DRSC - 1218
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186 DRSC - 1200
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169 DRSC - 1200 but not sure thats right!

17

Is anyone on this forum involved with the 'Great Lakes' handicaps as used in last winter's Sailjuice series and if so does anyone know when NEXT winter's numbers will be released and where they will be published?

Rgds

George Morris

···

----- Original Message ----- From: "familyberry" <stewart@stewartberry.co.uk>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

George,
As I recall:
Topaz Uno Race is the same as the baic Uno but is sailed with a Mylar fully battened sail
Topaz Uno Race X is the same as the Topaz Uno Race with the addition of an asymentric sail.
Hope that helps.
regards
Stewart

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@...> wrote:

Thanks for that. I shall now have to take a diploma in Topaz variants. Up to
now we have basically said that if it has a gennaker it gets the same as a
Feva, if it has one person/one sail it gets 1236 and a bit more if it has a
second person on board. Does the jib actually do anything - it doesn't look
very big!

rgds

George
----- Original Message ----- From: "familyberry" <stewart@...>
To: <sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

> George,
> For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:
>
> TOPAZ UNO 1236
> TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
> TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
> TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
> TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
> TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169
>
> For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we'll be using the > above
> for 2013 too.
>
> regards
> Stewart
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@>
> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?
>>
>> rgds
>>
>> George Morris
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ian Payne
>> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013
>>
>> I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ian
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the
>> parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
>> Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this >> year?
>> regards
>> Stewart
>>
>> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
>> >
>> > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower >> trend,
>> Finn
>> > and Fireball getting faster!
>> >
>> > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Malcolm Osborne
>> > Sedgefield South Africa
>> >
>> > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which
>> +12 on
>> > > last year!
>> > >
>> > > See here
>> http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
>> > >
>> > > Nick
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
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George,

Yep, I help out with the Great Lakes stuff. Not sure if and when next Sailjuice series numbers will be published as the first event isn’t until November. I can ask for you and let you know though.

Chris

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On 5 Mar 2013, at 10:19, George Morris georgewhitleymorris@gmail.com wrote:

Is anyone on this forum involved with the ‘Great Lakes’ handicaps as used in
last winter’s Sailjuice series and if so does anyone know when NEXT winter’s
numbers will be released and where they will be published?

Rgds

George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: “familyberry” stewart@stewartberry.co.uk>
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

George,
As I recall:
Topaz Uno Race is the same as the baic Uno but is sailed with a Mylar
fully battened sail
Topaz Uno Race X is the same as the Topaz Uno Race with the addition of an
asymentric sail.
Hope that helps.
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “George Morris”
wrote:

Thanks for that. I shall now have to take a diploma in Topaz variants. Up
to
now we have basically said that if it has a gennaker it gets the same as
a
Feva, if it has one person/one sail it gets 1236 and a bit more if it has
a
second person on board. Does the jib actually do anything - it doesn’t
look
very big!

rgds

George
----- Original Message -----
From: “familyberry”
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

George,
For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:

TOPAZ UNO 1236
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169

For 2013 the Toaz Uno has remained unchanges, so we’ll be using the
above
for 2013 too.

regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “George Morris”
wrote:

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Payne
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

Regards
Ian

On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, “familyberry” wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the
parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this
year?
regards
Stewart

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower
trend,
Finn
and Fireball getting faster!

The RS Tera Pro still isn’t listed?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:

Hi all,

New RYA PY’s published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which
+12 on

last year!

See here
http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx

Nick

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Can anyone suggest a rating for RS Tera minisail?
Minisail is a new addition to Tera.
- 2.7 square meters.
- can be used on standard rigs.
This is all I know about it but am thinking to use it for my child 4.4 stone (28kg).
Any suggestion or advice would be very much appreciated.
Regards
David

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne <malcolmo@...> wrote:

The published number (by RS) for the Tera Pro is 1390, which we've been
using for a couple of years.

A Tera Pro won a recent event against Lasers and a Fireball, which could
indicate that the rating is a bit generous, but in other events, when
the lad sails against our top Optimist sailor, he comes second!

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2013/03/02 23:17, familyberry wrote:
>
> Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the
> parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
> Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
> regards
> Stewart
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Malcolm Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
> > and Fireball getting faster!
> >
> > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
> >
> > regards,
> > Malcolm Osborne
> > Sedgefield South Africa
> >
> > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
> > > last year!
> > >
> > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

20

Hello

I saw the following message posted earlier in this thread.

For 2012 we used the following which I sort of extracted from the RYA:

TOPAZ UNO 1236
TOPAZ UNO RACE 1186
TOPAZ UNO RACE (WITH CREW) 1232
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB) 1180
TOPAZ UNO RACE PLUS (WITH JIB & CREW) 1207
TOPAZ UNO RACE X 1169

Does anyone know the source where these detailed ratings were extracted? I could not find anything like these in RYA.org.uk.

In the manufacturer's online brochure, http://www.toppersailboats.com/pdf/brochures/Topaz%20Dinghy%20Range%20Brochure.pdf, ratings are listed as follows. Even though this hasn't been updated, numbers are really generous comparing with the ones listed above.

TOPAZ UNO PLUS, Sail Area 7.39m2,PY:1255
TOPAZ UNO RACE, Sail Areas 8.68m2, PY:1240
TOPAZ UNO RACE X, 8.68m2 +8.00m2 spinnaker, PY:1200

Regards
David

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "George Morris" <georgewhitleymorris@...> wrote:

Has anyone got handicaps for the Topaz in its various configurations?

rgds

George Morris
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ian Payne
  To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: New RYA PYs published for 2013

  I guess the same as last year, 1370. Got that from the class sec.

  Regards
  Ian

  On 2 Mar 2013, at 21:17, "familyberry" <stewart@...> wrote:

    Yeah, I noticed that too which gives me problems (usually from the parents of Tera Pro sailors!).
    Anyone care to share what PY they will be give Ters Pros this year?
    regards
    Stewart

    --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
    >
    > Interesting - Laser and Laser Radial continuing on a slower trend, Finn
    > and Fireball getting faster!
    >
    > The RS Tera Pro still isn't listed?
    >
    > regards,
    > Malcolm Osborne
    > Sedgefield South Africa
    >
    > On 2013/03/02 20:23, Esc Sailwave wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > New RYA PY's published on RYA site. Toppers are now 1313 which +12 on
    > > last year!
    > >
    > > See here http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx
    > >
    > > Nick
    > >
    > >
    >