Regatta rating files

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1

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:
1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
3. Fast monohulls, under VY
4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14' cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick (KBY)
I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I want to use a separate calculation.
Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I need to have one single csv file that it looks for?

2

Sailwave will read all the files in the directory. Have you tried it?

Let me know if you still have a problem

Jon

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--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "pambularob" <pambularob@...> wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:
1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
3. Fast monohulls, under VY
4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14' cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick (KBY)
I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I want to use a separate calculation.
Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I need to have one single csv file that it looks for?

3

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so I'm posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet. Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "pambularob" <pambularob@...> wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:
1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
3. Fast monohulls, under VY
4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14' cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick (KBY)
I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I want to use a separate calculation.
Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I need to have one single csv file that it looks for?

4

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work. I put in some dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being 6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found out by testing that all the .csv files need to have ‘VY’ as the rating system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as ‘TCF’ for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system code to ‘VY’ that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so I’m posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet. Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “pambularob” wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:

  1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
  2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
  3. Fast monohulls, under VY
  4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’ cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick (KBY)
    I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
    I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I want to use a separate calculation.
    Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
5

Hi Rob,

The rating in the csv file needs to match the rating you are using for the fleet. If you post your files I'm sure some one here more experienced than me will help you out. If there is a problem with the program then I will sort it out for you, but there are many users out there that have a greater expertise in this area than me.

If you look in Help - Log book it will confirm where it is loading the ratings from and the number of ratings that it loaded.

Jon

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Morton" <robmorton@...> wrote:

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the
forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work. I put in some
dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being
6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you
could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that
account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found
out by testing that all the .csv files need to have 'VY' as the rating
system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class
Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay
Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as 'TCF'
for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat
class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to 'VY' that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated
by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and
have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to
a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters
to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so
I'm posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for
which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as
many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet.
Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"pambularob" wrote:
>
> I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
> I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:
> 1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
> 2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
> 3. Fast monohulls, under VY
> 4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14' cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick
(KBY)
> I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
> I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I
want to use a separate calculation.
> Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I
need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
>

6

Cheers Jon,

OK, that makes sense. I now have all the rating system codes matching and I can read all the information from within the competitor window.

I do have the custom rating system radio button selected for my fleet 2, and in the custom rating system tab, I have the inherit boxes unticked.

I have the formula for the custom rating system as c=e*r, but the program still works the corrected time as the VY (c=(e/vy)*100)

If, as you say, the rating system in the cvs file (that is VY) needs to match the rating in the fleet, does that mean that the program will always use the VY formula? Is this a problem with how I have set this up or is it a problem with the program?

Regards,

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob,

The rating in the csv file needs to match the rating you are using for the fleet. If you post your files I’m sure some one here more experienced than me will help you out. If there is a problem with the program then I will sort it out for you, but there are many users out there that have a greater expertise in this area than me.

If you look in Help - Log book it will confirm where it is loading the ratings from and the number of ratings that it loaded.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Rob Morton” wrote:

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the
forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work. I put in some
dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being
6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you
could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that
account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found
out by testing that all the .csv files need to have ‘VY’ as the rating
system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class
Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay
Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as ‘TCF’
for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat
class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to ‘VY’ that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated
by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and
have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to
a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters
to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so
I’m posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for
which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as
many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet.
Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com ,
“pambularob” wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:

  1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
  2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
  3. Fast monohulls, under VY
  4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’ cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick
    (KBY)
    I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
    I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I
    want to use a separate calculation.
    Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I
    need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
7

Hi Rob. If you have a fleet specific scoring system, set up it should use the rating settings within it (inherited or overridden - the latter in your case) when scoring that fleet.

···

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Rob Morton robmorton@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Cheers Jon,

OK, that makes sense. I now have all the rating system codes matching and I can read all the information from within the competitor window.

I do have the custom rating system radio button selected for my fleet 2, and in the custom rating system tab, I have the inherit boxes unticked.

I have the formula for the custom rating system as c=e*r, but the program still works the corrected time as the VY (c=(e/vy)*100)

If, as you say, the rating system in the cvs file (that is VY) needs to match the rating in the fleet, does that mean that the program will always use the VY formula? Is this a problem with how I have set this up or is it a problem with the program?

Regards,

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob,

The rating in the csv file needs to match the rating you are using for the fleet. If you post your files I’m sure some one here more experienced than me will help you out. If there is a problem with the program then I will sort it out for you, but there are many users out there that have a greater expertise in this area than me.

If you look in Help - Log book it will confirm where it is loading the ratings from and the number of ratings that it loaded.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Rob Morton” wrote:

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the
forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work. I put in some
dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being
6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you
could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that
account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found
out by testing that all the .csv files need to have ‘VY’ as the rating
system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class
Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay
Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as ‘TCF’
for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat
class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to ‘VY’ that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated
by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and
have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to
a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters
to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so
I’m posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for
which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as
many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet.
Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com ,
“pambularob” wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:

  1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
  2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
  3. Fast monohulls, under VY
  4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’ cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick
    (KBY)
    I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
    I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I
    want to use a separate calculation.
    Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I
    need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
8

Thanks Colin,

That is how I see it, but the problem is that it doesn’t. It uses the VY ratings calculation.

I am trying to work out if it is a programming problem or may setup problem J

I am fiddling with it now, and have changed the VY to a TCF rating and put in the formula for VY for those fleets that need it and the formula for the CBH, but so far the calculation the program does for the CBH is incorrect, it still does the calculation for VY (the parent)?

Cheers

Rob Morton

88 Woodlands Lane, Bald Hills

Postal addres (P.O. Box 185)

Pambula NSW 2549

Phone: 02 6495 7414 Fax: 02 6495 7139 Mobile: 0428 246 903

email: robmorton@ozemail.com.au

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob. If you have a fleet specific scoring system, set up it should use the rating settings within it (inherited or overridden - the latter in your case) when scoring that fleet.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Rob Morton robmorton@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Cheers Jon,

OK, that makes sense. I now have all the rating system codes matching and I can read all the information from within the competitor window.

I do have the custom rating system radio button selected for my fleet 2, and in the custom rating system tab, I have the inherit boxes unticked.

I have the formula for the custom rating system as c=e*r, but the program still works the corrected time as the VY (c=(e/vy)*100)

If, as you say, the rating system in the cvs file (that is VY) needs to match the rating in the fleet, does that mean that the program will always use the VY formula? Is this a problem with how I have set this up or is it a problem with the program?

Regards,

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob,

The rating in the csv file needs to match the rating you are using for the fleet. If you post your files I’m sure some one here more experienced than me will help you out. If there is a problem with the program then I will sort it out for you, but there are many users out there that have a greater expertise in this area than me.

If you look in Help - Log book it will confirm where it is loading the ratings from and the number of ratings that it loaded.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Rob Morton” wrote:

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the
forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work. I put in some
dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being
6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you
could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that
account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found
out by testing that all the .csv files need to have ‘VY’ as the rating
system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class
Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay
Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as ‘TCF’
for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat
class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to ‘VY’ that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated
by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and
have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to
a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters
to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so
I’m posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for
which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as
many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet.
Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you wish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com ,
“pambularob” wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:

  1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
  2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
  3. Fast monohulls, under VY
  4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’ cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick
    (KBY)
    I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
    I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I
    want to use a separate calculation.
    Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I
    need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
9

I have not had any joy with my fiddling.

Unfortunately, I think I will need to run 2 separate sailwave files, on for the 3 divisions which use VY and another for the trailable yachts using a CBH

Cheers

Rob Morton

88 Woodlands Lane, Bald Hills

Postal addres (P.O. Box 185)

Pambula NSW 2549

Phone: 02 6495 7414 Fax: 02 6495 7139 Mobile: 0428 246 903

email: robmorton@ozemail.com.au

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Morton
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Thanks Colin,

That is how I see it, but the problem is that it doesn’t. It uses the VY ratings calculation.

I am trying to work out if it is a programming problem or may setup problem J

I am fiddling with it now, and have changed the VY to a TCF rating and put in the formula for VY for those fleets that need it and the formula for the CBH, but so far the calculation the program does for the CBH is incorrect, it still does the calculation for VY (the parent)?

Cheers

Rob Morton

88 Woodlands Lane, Bald Hills

Postal addres (P.O. Box 185)

Pambula NSW 2549

Phone: 02 6495 7414 Fax: 02 6495 7139 Mobile: 0428 246 903

email: robmorton@ozemail.com.au

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:46
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob. If you have a fleet specific scoring system, set up it should use the rating settings within it (inherited or overridden - the latter in your case) when scoring that fleet.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Rob Morton robmorton@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Cheers Jon,

OK, that makes sense. I now have all the rating system codes matching and I can read all the information from within the competitor window.

I do have the custom rating system radio button selected for my fleet 2, and in the custom rating system tab, I have the inherit boxes unticked.

I have the formula for the custom rating system as c=e*r, but the program still works the corrected time as the VY (c=(e/vy)*100)

If, as you say, the rating system in the cvs file (that is VY) needs to match the rating in the fleet, does that mean that the program will always use the VY formula? Is this a problem with how I have set this up or is it a problem with the program?

Regards,

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Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:51
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi Rob,

The rating in the csv file needs to match the rating you are using for the fleet. If you post your files I’m sure some one here more experienced than me will help you out. If there is a problem with the program then I will sort it out for you, but there are many users out there that have a greater expertise in this area than me.

If you look in Help - Log book it will confirm where it is loading the ratings from and the number of ratings that it loaded.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, “Rob Morton” wrote:

Thanks Jon,

I have trouble with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response on the
forum and replied there too.

What you describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to w ork. I put in some
dummy results to check and I get some incredibly long corrected times (being
6:18:33:17) for my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my ratings files, if you
could have a chance to see what I have done wrong.

On a note about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted back from that
account I should not use, so probably did not get to you):

Having more than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work, but I found
out by testing that all the .csv files need to have ‘VY’ as the rating
system code (or maybe all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you, and the CBH (Class
Based Handicap used for trailable yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay
Yardstick for catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as ‘TCF’
for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that information from the boat
class field in the edit competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to ‘VY’ that information became viewable.

I have been perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings separated
by an empty line when looking for boat classes using the above method, and
have noticed that the short extra list is created as new boats are added to
a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot type the first few letters
to find the class, but have to scroll down to find it.

I hope this all makes sense

Rob Morton

Pambula NSW Australia

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Regatta rating files

Hi,

The email you sent me the last message from says it is no longer in use so
I’m posting the reply here in the hope you will pick it up.

You can have multiple rating systems but you have to define the rules for
which rating systems apply to which fleets

If you go to the Scoring system and then to the fleets tab you can create as
many different fleets as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating system tab for that fleet.
Untick the Inherit box and select the scoring system you w ish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have created.

Hope this helps

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com ,
“pambularob” wrote:

I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks time.
I would like to run the single sailwave file, but with 4 divisions:

  1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick (VY)
  2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)
  3. Fast monohulls, under VY
  4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’ cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick
    (KBY)
    I have setup 4 fleets as above in the sailwave file.
    I have made the rating system for division 2 to be not inherited, as I
    want to use a separate calculation.
    Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw searches for the ratins, or do I
    need to have one single csv file that it looks for?
10

G’day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,

Marcus Towell****| Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.
Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email: mtowell@baulderstone.com.au| www.baulderstone.com.au

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Hi Marcus,

Could you give me a bit more detail about your problem. What version of Sailwave are you using and what oerating system?

Perhaps you could post a sample file or a few screen shots to explain your problem. It seems to work OK to me.

Regards

Jon

···

On 19 February 2013 12:37, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,

Marcus Towell****| Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.
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No trick - it doesn't update, only manually.

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

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G'day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,
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G’day John,

It could be the way we have set up or not knowing where to find.

We have entered approx. 8 races of a handicap series & when we view the BCR the program seems to display the actual BCR that each boat would need to obtain
an equal result for all boats for the race only.

I think the idea is the BCR changes slightly each race depending on the competitors result.?

IS there a section in the user guide that best helps how to set up in the first place.?

···

Regards

Marcus Towell | Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |
Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email:
mtowell@baulderstone.com.au |
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 12:21 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] BCR for handicap series

Hi Marcus,

Could you give me a bit more detail about your problem. What version of Sailwave are you using and what oerating system?

Perhaps you could post a sample file or a few screen shots to explain your problem. It seems to work OK to me.

Regards

Jon

On 19 February 2013 12:37, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,

**Marcus Towell **| Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email: mtowell@baulderstone.com.au| www.baulderstone.com.au

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Jon

I have been talking to my committee and we
want to offer a donation towards the workings of Sailwave.

Can you recommend a route that will be
easy for you?

Regards

Brian
Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile
07711-796125

···
15

Hi Marcus,

I understand what you want now. OK in all the current released versions of Sailwave the BCR is calculated and display for each race. This is the Rating they would have need to be at to obtain an equal first. Sailwave does support the using a different rating for each race but you have to manually enter it.

That was the Bad news.

Now the Good News:-

Version 2.9 of Sailwave which is getting close to release does support the required mechanism. You may have read an announcement by the RYA if not here is a link to it http://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/enewsletters/theclubroom/december2012/Pages/Changeoftackforcruiserracing.aspx

This is their new National Handicap for Cruisers scheme. They did tell me they were going to post updated details about it on there website yesterday but have not seen this yet - let us a know if you see something appear. The target date they have for the release of it is the 1st March.

I have been working with them for several months to build support into Sailwave to fully support this (That’s why I’ve been quiet with other releases). Fundamentally it consists of two modes a Club racing mode and a Regatta mode which have different rules for calculating the rating for the next race. The Regatta mode is a lot more complicated. Now with version 2.9 when you hit score or rescore then the rating for the next race is automatically updated in Sailwave according to the rules. Now I appreciate you are in Australia and may not want to use the same rules as the RYA but I have also built into Sailwave an additional mode that uses Excel to specify the calculation rules and the Version 2.9 comes complete with 2 working templates that fully support the RYA National Handicap for Cruisers Club and Regatta modes. This allows anyone to see the working calculations as a full audit trail of how the ratings were calculated - so you can always check the calculations are correct and if for any reason there was a discrepancy it is possible to see why. There is no reason though if you want you can replace these templates with your own - you could make it use any rules you want. You will need a copy of Excel to do this though. Using the built in calculation there is no need for Excel.

While on the topic I’m looking for 2 or 3 people to do some initial Beta testing of Version 2.9 before I release the official Beta version. Ideally they will have some experience with scoring cruiser racing and at least a basic understanding of Excel and even better if they have some experience of Personal handicap schemes if you are or know of anyone interested if they would like to contact me at jon@sailwave.com

Jon

···

On 19 February 2013 13:58, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day John,

It could be the way we have set up or not knowing where to find.

We have entered approx. 8 races of a handicap series & when we view the BCR the program seems to display the actual BCR that each boat would need to obtain
an equal result for all boats for the race only.

I think the idea is the BCR changes slightly each race depending on the competitors result.?

IS there a section in the user guide that best helps how to set up in the first place.?

Regards

Marcus Towell | Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |
Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email:
mtowell@baulderstone.com.au |
www.baulderstone.com.au

Baulderstone is committed to environmental sustainability.
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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 12:21 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] BCR for handicap series

Hi Marcus,

Could you give me a bit more detail about your problem. What version of Sailwave are you using and what oerating system?

Perhaps you could post a sample file or a few screen shots to explain your problem. It seems to work OK to me.

Regards

Jon

On 19 February 2013 12:37, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,

**Marcus Towell **| Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email: mtowell@baulderstone.com.au| www.baulderstone.com.au

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Thanks Brian,

There is a Donate link on the menu of the Website.

http://www.sailwave.com/donate

Many thanks your support is greatly appreciated

Jon

···

On 19 February 2013 14:33, Brian Welham bwelham@sky.com wrote:

Jon

I have been talking to my committee and we
want to offer a donation towards the workings of Sailwave.

Can you recommend a route that will be
easy for you?

Regards

Brian
Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile
07711-796125

17

Hi Jon,

I won’t be much help, as I don’t fall into your wanted and needed categories, but I plan to install your beta version after our regatta (9 – 10 March), to look at the handicapping that we have been talking about on earlier threads.

Rob Morton

88 Woodlands Lane, Bald Hills

Postal addres (P.O. Box 185)

Pambula NSW 2549

Phone: 02 6495 7414 Fax: 02 6495 7139 Mobile: 0428 246 903

email: robmorton@ozemail.com.au

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From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] BCR for handicap series

Hi Marcus,

I understand what you want now. OK in all the current released versions of Sailwave the BCR is calculated and display for each race. This is the Rating they would have need to be at to obtain an equal first. Sailwave does support the using a different rating for each race but you have to manually enter it.

That was the Bad news.

Now the Good News:-

Version 2.9 of Sailwave which is getting close to release does support the required mechanism. You may have read an announcement by the RYA if not here is a link to it http://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/enewsletters/theclubroom/december2012/Pages/Changeoftackforcruiserracing.aspx

This is their new National Handicap for Cruisers scheme. They did tell me they were going to post updated details about it on there website yesterday but have not seen this yet - let us a know if you see something appear. The target date they have for the release of it is the 1st March.

I have been working with them for several months to build support into Sailwave to fully support this (That’s why I’ve been quiet with other releases). Fundamentally it consists of two modes a Club racing mode and a Regatta mode which have different rules for calculating the rating for the next race. The Regatta mode is a lot more complicated. Now with version 2.9 when you hit score or rescore then the rating for the next race is automatically updated in Sailwave according to the rules. Now I appreciate you are in Australia and may not want to use the same rules as the RYA but I have also built into Sailwave an additional mode that uses Excel to specify the calculation rules and the Version 2.9 comes complete with 2 working templates that fully support the RYA National Handicap for Cruisers Club and Regatta modes. This allows anyone to see the working calculations as a full audit trail of how the ratings were calculated - so you can always check the calculations are correct and if for any reason there was a discrepancy it is possible to see why. There is no reason though if you want you can replace these templates with your own - you could make it use any rules you want. You will need a copy of Excel to do this though. Using the built in calculation there is no need for Excel.

While on the topic I’m looking for 2 or 3 people to do some initial Beta testing of Version 2.9 before I release the official Beta version. Ideally they will have some experience with scoring cruiser racing and at least a basic understanding of Excel and even better if they have some experience of Personal handicap schemes if you are or know of anyone interested if they would like to contact me at jon@sailwave.com

Jon

On 19 February 2013 13:58, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day John,

It could be the way we have set up or not knowing where to find.

We have entered approx. 8 races of a handicap series & when we view the BCR the program seems to display the actual BCR that each boat would need to obtain an equal result for all boats for the race only.

I think the idea is the BCR changes slightly each race depending on the competitors result.?

IS there a section in the user guide that best helps how to set up in the first place.?

Regards

Marcus Towell | Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email: mtowell@baulderstone.com.au | www.baulderstone.com.au

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 12:21 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] BCR for handicap series

Hi Marcus,

Could you give me a bit more detail about your problem. What version of Sailwave are you using and what oerating system?

Perhaps you could post a sample file or a few screen shots to explain your problem. It seems to work OK to me.

Regards

Jon

On 19 February 2013 12:37, Marcus Towell mtowell@baulderstone.com.au wrote:

G’day Jon

We use the sail wave software and having trouble with getting the BCR to update on a race by race basis - is there a particular trick to this?

Regards,

**Marcus Towell **| Cost Planning Manager – Adelaide Oval Redevelopment |Baulderstone

Level 14 Optus House, 431 King William Street, Adelaide SA 5000.

Phone: (08) 8202 8806 | Mobile: 0411 021 100 | Email: mtowell@baulderstone.com.au| www.baulderstone.com.au

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Hi Rob,

I have in the past successfully had a single Sailwave which used two

different rating systems, PY & SCHRS. So I would expect Sailwave
to be able to handle multiple rating systems within one .BLW file.

To further complicate matters I also had two different scoring

profiles I switched between, Low Point & High Point.

Like Jon has offered, I am also willing to look at your .BLW file

and see if I can spot anything.

Won't be able to look at file if you send it through before Friday

as off to Manchester University with son for his interview day.

Kind regards,
Huw
···

On 18/02/2013 20:08, Rob Morton wrote:

Thanks Jon,

              I have trouble

with my yahoo accounts, I did look for your response
on the forum and replied there too.

              What you

describe is exactly what I did, which seemed to work.
I put in some dummy results to check and I get some
incredibly long corrected times (being 6:18:33:17) for
my simple c=e*r formula, despite the formula testing
correctly. I could send you this file along with my
ratings files, if you could have a chance to see what
I have done wrong.

              On a note

about the .csv ratings files (this is what I posted
back from that account I should not use, so probably
did not get to you):

              Having more

than one .csv file in the ratings folder does work,
but I found out by testing that all the .csv files
need to have ‘VY’ as the rating system code (or maybe
all the same, at least). I have 3 ratings files, the
vy file available on the sailwave download, thank you,
and the CBH (Class Based Handicap used for trailable
yachts) file and the KBY (Koonawarra Bay Yardstick for
catamarans). I initially had the rating system code as
‘TCF’ for the CBH and the KBY, but could not see that
information from the boat class field in the edit
competitor window. When I changed the rating system
code to R 16;VY’ that information became viewable.

              I have been

perplexed about the short list of boat class ratings
separated by an empty line when looking for boat
classes using the above method, and have noticed that
the short extra list is created as new boats are added
to a series. I find this a bit of a pain as I cannot
type the first few letters to find the class, but have
to scroll down to find it.

              I hope this

all makes sense

Rob Morton

                Pambula NSW

Australia

From:

                  [] JON

Tuesday, 19 February 2013 0:44
[sailwave] Re: Regatta rating
files

Hi,

                  The email you sent me the last message from says

it is no longer in use so I’m posting the reply
here in the hope you will pick it up.

                  You can have multiple rating systems but you have

to define the rules for which rating systems apply
to which fleets

                  If you go to the Scoring system and then to the

fleets tab you can create as many different fleets
as you like and you can specify what defines the
fleet. Then edit the fleet and go to the rating
system tab for that fleet. Untick the Inherit box
and select the scoring system you wish to use for
this fleet. Repeat for any other fleets you have
created.

                  Hope this helps

                  Jon

                  --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com                      ,

“pambularob” wrote:
>
> I am setting up for our regatta in 3 weeks
time.
> I would like to run the single sailwave file,
but with 4 divisions:
> 1. Slow monohulls, under Victorian yardstick
(VY)
> 2. Trailable yachts, under Class Based
Handicap (CBH) (C=ExCBH)** > 3. Fast
monohulls, under VY
> 4. Catamarans, under VY, excpet the 14’
cats under Konawarra Bay Yardstick (KBY)
> I have setup 4 fleets as above in the
sailwave file.
> I have made the rating system for division
2 to be not inherited, as I want to use a
separate calculation.
> Can I have 2 (or more) csv files which sw
searches for the ratins, or do I need to have
one single csv file that it looks for?
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Jon

Thanks but do you have
an account number so we can do an electronic transfer to your bank account? If
so we will need Account name. sort code and account number.

Regards

Brian
Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile
07711-796125

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From:
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Sent: 19 February 2013 15:08
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Donation

Thanks Brian,

There is a Donate link on the menu of the Website.

http://www.sailwave.com/donate

Many thanks your support is greatly appreciated

Jon

On 19 February 2013 14:33, Brian Welham bwelham@sky.com wrote:

Jon

I have been talking to my committee and we want to offer a donation
towards the workings of Sailwave.

Can you recommend a route that will be easy for you?

Regards

Brian Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile 07711-796125

20

Hi Brian,

The Sailwave account is:-

MR CRT JENKINS AND MRS SA JENKINS SAILWAVE

National Westminster
60-11-17

19500343

Jon and I share all donations at present.

···

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Brian Welham bwelham@sky.com wrote:

Jon

Thanks but do you have
an account number so we can do an electronic transfer to your bank account? If
so we will need Account name. sort code and account number.

Regards

Brian
Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile
07711-796125

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: 19 February 2013 15:08
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Donation

Thanks Brian,

There is a Donate link on the menu of the Website.

http://www.sailwave.com/donate

Many thanks your support is greatly appreciated

Jon

On 19 February 2013 14:33, Brian Welham bwelham@sky.com wrote:

Jon

I have been talking to my committee and we want to offer a donation
towards the workings of Sailwave.

Can you recommend a route that will be easy for you?

Regards

Brian Welham

MSC

Tel 01344-761642

Mobile 07711-796125