Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Eskdale · 3 December 2012 01:34

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a play with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

Eskdale · 3 December 2012 12:49

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the ability to include the start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers and and single for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

···

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON jon@eskdale.org wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a play with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

mtownsend · 4 December 2012 01:01

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world championship that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green, red) and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the ability to include the start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers and and single for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON jon@eskdale.org wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a play with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Eskdale · 4 December 2012 09:12

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file and I will fix it.

Jon

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, S Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@...> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green, red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@...

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I've also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the ability to include the
start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers
and and single for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON <jon@...> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a play with it and let me know what you think. I'll tryand post a
couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don't save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

--
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype "eskdale"

mtownsend · 5 December 2012 04:42

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look fine.

Testing environment.

· Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

· Firefox 16.0.2

· There were 118 competitors.

· Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

· Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

· Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink, Purple, White.

· Seven Final races.

· Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

```
 Series Properties window.
```
```
 Sailwave showing flight assignments
```

 Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” checked.

```
 Results when above not checked.
```

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, S Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green, red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the ability to include the
start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers
and and single for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON <jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a play with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a
couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Eskdale · 5 December 2012 09:19

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today - probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

···

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look fine.

Testing environment.

· Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

· Firefox 16.0.2

· There were 118 competitors.

&middot
; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

· Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

· Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink, Purple,
White.

· Seven Final races.

· Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

```
 Series Properties window.
```

```
 Sailwave showing flight assignments
```

  Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “
Include the nationality code under flag” checked.

```
 Results when above not checked.
```

Mark Townsend

Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with

2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, S Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world championship
that had 118 competitors
with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green, red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi
lity to include the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si
ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON <jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now

a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla
y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts

correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

–
Jon Eskdale
07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

mtownsend · 5 December 2012 16:01

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today - probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look fine.

Testing environment.

· Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

· Firefox 16.0.2

· There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

· Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

· Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink, Purple, White.

· Seven Final races.

· Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

```
 Series Properties window.
```
```
 Sailwave showing flight assignments
```

 Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and “ Include the nationality code under flag” checked.

```
 Results when above not checked.
```

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, S Mark Townsend <s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green, red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON <jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777

Skype “eskdale”

Christof · 5 December 2012 17:57

Hello Jon,

it would be nice, if You could do the same for Finish (and Start) Times in the Sailnumber Wizard ...

Cheers

Christof

···

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@...> wrote:

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN
That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds
My personal preference is I should.

Jon

RichardE · 5 December 2012 18:35

I agree and suggest that the blw file should store all times in the colon format. If it already does this please my lack of knowledge.
Richard

···

On Dec 5, 2012 5:57 PM, “paulesgps” paulesgps@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello Jon,

it would be nice, if You could do the same for Finish (and Start) Times in the Sailnumber Wizard …

Cheers

Christof

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com, Jon Eskdale <jon@…> wrote:

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN
That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds
My personal preference is I should.

Jon

Art_Engel2 · 5 December 2012 22:03

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance multiple day race? Art

···

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I'll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn't have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I'm
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsend<s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options "Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag" and "Include the nationality code under flag" in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

1. Series Properties window.

2. Sailwave showing flight assignments

3. Results with "Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag" and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

4. Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@...> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world

championship

that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,

red)

and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@...

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I've also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include

the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print

it

on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@...> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful

when

you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I'll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don't save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the

JSON

publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

--
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777<tel:07976%20709777>

Skype "eskdale"

mtownsend · 6 December 2012 00:53

Ddhhmmss?

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

···

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com > wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”

Art_Engel2 · 6 December 2012 01:11

Oh thanks. Then I agree 100% with your earlier comment about checking hh, mm and ss. Art

···

On 12/5/2012 4:53 PM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

Ddhhmmss?

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the

same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com<mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I'll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn't have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide.

I'm

afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I

hope

you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds

when

entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter

Minutes

or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when

entering

as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsend<s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com > <mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com> > >> wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of

what

triggers the problem. When the options "Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag" and "Include the nationality code under flag" in

Series

Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

1. Series Properties window.

2. Sailwave showing flight assignments

3. Results with "Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag" and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

4. Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com<mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf

Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for

browser

compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw

file

and I will fix it.

Jon

--- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> , S Mark

Townsend<s_mark_townsend@...> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world

championship

that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,

red)

and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@...

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I've also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include

the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if

it

is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print

it

on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for

qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@...> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is

now

a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful

when

you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I'll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don't save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the

JSON

publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

--
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777<tel:07976%20709777>

Skype "eskdale"

Huw2 · 6 December 2012 07:53

Start time

Posted on December 14,
2011
by admin

Hi Art et al,

The capability for '*long-distance multiple day race*    ' has been

in Sailwave for a long time, the following is from the help file on
the web site

A start time takes one of the forms:-

time
date@time

time must be one of:-

hhmmss
hhmm
h:m:s
h:m

  If a corresponding finish time is before a start time, and dates

are not used, one midnight boundary is assumed. Although a : is
the most common separator any one of the following can be used:-

: – / . ;

Spaces are ignored. Do not mix separators in a start time.
When including a date
separate the time from the date with a “@” character; for
example:-

Date

Posted on December 14,
2011
by admin

Dates are used in start
times and finish
times . The expected date format is defined in
Setup+SeriesOptions and must take one of the forms:-

day/month/year
month/day/year
year/month/day
day-month-year
month-day-year
year-month-day

  All components must be numeric, leading zeros are not required,

years can be specific in full or in short form (i.e. 1005 or 05 or
5). For example a start time of 9.30am on the 21st of March 2005
may be:-

Using this style of date/time entry should mean not having to work

out the number of days the race took.

Kind regards,

Huw

···

21/3/05@9.30
21/3/05@9.30
On 05/12/2012 22:03, Art Engel wrote:

          I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a
long-distance
multiple day race? Art
          On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:
          > I would vote that the format checking for all the
times should be the same.
>
>
>
> hh between 0 and 23
>
> mm between 0 and 59
>
> ss between 0 and 59
>
>
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
>
>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf
> Of Jon Eskdale
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature
and Bug Fix
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try
a fix it today -
> probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.
>
> Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last
time.
>
> Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your
excellent User Guide. I’m
> afraid some of the changes are going to affect this
though. Although I hope
> you agree they are for the best.
>
> I have now also put in some error checking for the
Minutes and Seconds when
> entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not
let you enter Minutes
> or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next
release
>
>
>
> The question now is should I do the same for the
Finish times when entering
> as NNN through to NNNNNNNN
>
> That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes
and seconds
>
> My personal preference is I should.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jon,
>
>
>
> I have spent some more time testing and have a better
understanding of what
> triggers the problem. When the options “Publish
nationality field as
> hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code
under flag” in Series
> Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn
unchecked they look
> fine.
>
>
>
> Testing environment.
>
> . Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2
>
> . Firefox 16.0.2
>
> . There were 118 competitors.
>
> &middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.
>
> . Races one through three had four flights Blue,
Green, Red, Yellow.
>
> . Races four through six had four flights Black Bars,
Hot Pink,
> Purple, White.
>
> . Seven Final races.
>
> . Gold and Silver.
>
>
>
> There are three screen shots below.
>
>
>
> 1. Series Properties window.
>
> 2. Sailwave showing flight assignments
>
> 3. Results with “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and "
> Include the nationality code under flag" checked.
>
> 4. Results when above not checked.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
>
>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf
> Of JON
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and
Bug Fix
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Malcom,
>
> That is very strange. Could you tell me which version
you tested with
> 2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in
2.8.2 just for browser
> compatibility.
>
> Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with
IE on XP. But I have
> code reports that it worked well from other people.
>
> I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with
2 starts and 6 Finals
> each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors
>
> If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you
could email the .blw file
> and I will fix it.
>
> Jon
>
> — In sailwave@yahoogroups.com
, S Mark

Townsend wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently
concluded world
championship

that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races
(blue, yellow, green,
red)

and nine final races (gold, silver). The results
page seems to be very

funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: > [mailto:
] On
Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: >> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature
and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include
the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters
then it is not printed if it

is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal
colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the
browser will probably print
it

on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have
Races split into multiple

starts and the Start names can be appended or not
as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race
e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in
the group you are

publishing are ignored so you have double or
triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON
wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the
previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of
displaying Starts in separate

columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the
Options tab there is now

a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each
start. Particularly useful
when

you have Flights as you can see who is racing
who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you
think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they
don’t save the starts

correctly this was due to some of the work Colin
has been doing on the
JSON

publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
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07976 709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”

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MalcolmO · 6 December 2012 08:02

The format for elapsed time is under discussion here - would a multiple day race elapsed time be dd@time?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

···

On 2012/12/06 09:53, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Art et al,

The capability for '/long-distance multiple day race/' has been in Sailwave for a long time, the following is from the help file on the web site

A start time takes one of the forms:-

time
date <http://sailwave.com/date>@time

time must be one of:-

hhmmss
hhmm
h:m:s
h:m

If a corresponding finish time is before a start time, and dates are not used, one midnight boundary is assumed. Although a : is the most common separator any one of the following can be used:-

: -- / . ;

Spaces are ignored. Do not mix separators in a start time.

When including a date <http://sailwave.com/date> separate the time from the date with a "@" character; for example:-

21/3/05@9.30

Dates are used in start times <http://sailwave.com/start-time> andfinish times <http://sailwave.com/finish-time>. The expected date format is defined in Setup+SeriesOptions and must take one of the forms:-

day/month/year
month/day/year
year/month/day
day-month-year
month-day-year
year-month-day

All components must be numeric, leading zeros are not required, years can be specific in full or in short form (i.e. 1005 or 05 or 5). For example a start time of 9.30am on the 21st of March 2005 may be:-

21/3/05@9.30

Using this style of date/time entry should mean not having to work out the number of days the race took.
Kind regards,
Huw

On 05/12/2012 22:03, Art Engel wrote:

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:
> I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.
>
> hh between 0 and 23
>
> mm between 0 and 59
>
> ss between 0 and 59
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com <mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Jon Eskdale
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>
> Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I'll try a fix it today -
> probably used a variable that I shouldn't have done.
>
> Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.
>
> Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I'm
> afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
> you agree they are for the best.
>
> I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
> entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
> or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release
>
> The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
> as NNN through to NNNNNNNN
>
> That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds
>
> My personal preference is I should.
>
> Jon
>
> On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark >> Townsend<s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com >> <mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>> >> > wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
> triggers the problem. When the options "Publish nationality field as
> hyperlinks to flag" and "Include the nationality code under flag" in Series
> Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
> fine.
>
> Testing environment.
>
> . Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2
>
> . Firefox 16.0.2
>
> . There were 118 competitors.
>
> &middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.
>
> . Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.
>
> . Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
> Purple, White.
>
> . Seven Final races.
>
> . Gold and Silver.
>
> There are three screen shots below.
>
> 1. Series Properties window.
>
> 2. Sailwave showing flight assignments
>
> 3. Results with "Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag" and "
> Include the nationality code under flag" checked.
>
> 4. Results when above not checked.
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com <mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of JON
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>
> Thanks Malcom,
>
> That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
> 2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
> compatibility.
>
> Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
> code reports that it worked well from other people.
>
> I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
> each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors
>
> If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
> and I will fix it.
>
> Jon
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> , S Mark
> Townsend<s_mark_townsend@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
> championship
>> that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
> red)
>> and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
>> funky, see below.
>>
>> Mark Townsend
>> Phone: 562-433-4366
>>
>> Cell: 562-533-5909
>> Email: s_mark_townsend@...
>>
>> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
>> Of Jon Eskdale
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
>> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> As Promised a few screen shots.
>>
>
>> I've also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
> the
>
>> start names in the column heading
>>
>> If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
>> is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed
>>
>> If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
> it
>> on a new line see the example below.
>>
>> Inline images 1
>>
>> Inline images 4
>>
>> The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
>> starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish
>>
>> You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath
>>
>> Q1
>>
>> Yellow
>>
>> or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
>> publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers
>
>> and and si ngle for Finals.
>
>>
>> Inline images 2
>>
>> Thats it for now
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions
>>
>> This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
>> columns when publishing the Series table.
>>
>> From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
>> a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns
>>
>> This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
> when
>> you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.
>>
>
>> Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I'll tryand post a
>
>> couple of screen shots tomorrow.
>>
>> Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don't save the starts
>> correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
> JSON
>> publishing. This should be OK again now.
>>
>> As Usual any feedback is appreciated
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> --
>> Jon Eskdale
>>
>> 07976 709777<tel:07976%20709777>
>>
>> Skype "eskdale"
>>
>

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Art_Engel2 · 6 December 2012 09:19

I must be missing something. Mark Townsend pointed out that the format for Finish and Elapsed times with multiple days is DDHHMMSS. I assume that is correct. I didn't realize that when I asked how one might designate multiple days if HH was limited to 23. That addressed my concern about checking that hours are only from 0 to 23. So I don't think there is any issue here. You don't use hours greater than 23 for multiple days, you append the number of days at the beginning of your entry string.

Frankly, I'm not sure what Huw's post was about, since we were discussing how to enter Finish times with multiple days, not how to enter or display dates.

I think Malcolm's suggestion is on point but I think the DDHHMMSS format (or with separators such as ":" or ".") is just fine as is. And don't see any particular need for another one myself, at least at this time.

Art

···

On 12/6/2012 12:02 AM, Malcolm Osborne wrote:

The format for elapsed time is under discussion here - would a multiple
day race elapsed time be dd@time?

regards,
Malcolm Osborne
Sedgefield South Africa

On 2012/12/06 09:53, Huw Pearce wrote:

Hi Art et al,

The capability for '/long-distance multiple day race/' has been in
Sailwave for a long time, the following is from the help file on the
web site

A start time takes one of the forms:-

time
date <http://sailwave.com/date>@time

time must be one of:-

hhmmss
hhmm
h:m:s
h:m

If a corresponding finish time is before a start time, and dates are
not used, one midnight boundary is assumed. Although a : is the most
common separator any one of the following can be used:-

: -- / . ;

Spaces are ignored. Do not mix separators in a start time.

When including a date <http://sailwave.com/date> separate the time
from the date with a "@" character; for example:-

21/3/05@9.30

Dates are used in start times <http://sailwave.com/start-time>
andfinish times <http://sailwave.com/finish-time>. The expected date
format is defined in Setup+SeriesOptions and must take one of the forms:-

day/month/year
month/day/year
year/month/day
day-month-year
month-day-year
year-month-day

All components must be numeric, leading zeros are not required, years
can be specific in full or in short form (i.e. 1005 or 05 or 5). For
example a start time of 9.30am on the 21st of March 2005 may be:-

21/3/05@9.30

Using this style of date/time entry should mean not having to work out
the number of days the race took.
Kind regards,
Huw

On 05/12/2012 22:03, Art Engel wrote:

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:
> I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be
the same.
>
> hh between 0 and 23
>
> mm between 0 and 59
>
> ss between 0 and 59
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
<mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf
> Of Jon Eskdale
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>
> Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I'll try a fix it today -
> probably used a variable that I shouldn't have done.
>
> Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.
>
> Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User
Guide. I'm
> afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though.
Although I hope
> you agree they are for the best.
>
> I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and
Seconds when
> entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter
Minutes
> or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release
>
> The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when
entering
> as NNN through to NNNNNNNN
>
> That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds
>
> My personal preference is I should.
>
> Jon
>
> On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark >>> Townsend<s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com >>> <mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>> >>> > wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding
of what
> triggers the problem. When the options "Publish nationality field as
> hyperlinks to flag" and "Include the nationality code under flag"
in Series
> Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked
they look
> fine.
>
> Testing environment.
>
> . Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2
>
> . Firefox 16.0.2
>
> . There were 118 competitors.
>
> &middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.
>
> . Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.
>
> . Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
> Purple, White.
>
> . Seven Final races.
>
> . Gold and Silver.
>
> There are three screen shots below.
>
> 1. Series Properties window.
>
> 2. Sailwave showing flight assignments
>
> 3. Results with "Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag"
and "
> Include the nationality code under flag" checked.
>
> 4. Results when above not checked.
>
> Mark Townsend
> Phone: 562-433-4366
>
> Cell: 562-533-5909
> Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
<mailto:s_mark_townsend%40hotmail.com>
>
> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf
> Of JON
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com <mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>
> Thanks Malcom,
>
> That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
> 2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for
browser
> compatibility.
>
> Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But
I have
> code reports that it worked well from other people.
>
> I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6
Finals
> each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors
>
> If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the
.blw file
> and I will fix it.
>
> Jon
>
> --- In sailwave@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ,
S Mark
> Townsend<s_mark_townsend@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
> championship
>> that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow,
green,
> red)
>> and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be
very
>> funky, see below.
>>
>> Mark Townsend
>> Phone: 562-433-4366
>>
>> Cell: 562-533-5909
>> Email: s_mark_townsend@...
>>
>> From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf
>> Of Jon Eskdale
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
>> To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> As Promised a few screen shots.
>>
>
>> I've also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to
include
> the
>
>> start names in the column heading
>>
>> If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not
printed if it
>> is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be
printed
>>
>> If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably
print
> it
>> on a new line see the example below.
>>
>> Inline images 1
>>
>> Inline images 4
>>
>> The following example shows how you can have Races split into
multiple
>> starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish
>>
>> You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or
underneath
>>
>> Q1
>>
>> Yellow
>>
>> or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
>> publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for
qualifiers
>
>> and and si ngle for Finals.
>
>>
>> Inline images 2
>>
>> Thats it for now
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions
>>
>> This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in
separate
>> columns when publishing the Series table.
>>
>> From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab
there is now
>> a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns
>>
>> This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly
useful
> when
>> you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.
>>
>
>> Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I'll tryand
post a
>
>> couple of screen shots tomorrow.
>>
>> Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don't save the starts
>> correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on
the
> JSON
>> publishing. This should be OK again now.
>>
>> As Usual any feedback is appreciated
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> --
>> Jon Eskdale
>>
>> 07976 709777<tel:07976%20709777>
>>
>> Skype "eskdale"
>>
>

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Ian_Savell · 6 December 2012 12:05

I’ve played around with quite a few options over many years of recording finishes. Restricting minutes to 59 etc. on time entry seems a poor idea to me. A lot of dinghy races finish around the hour and the recorders find it easier to record 58-59-60-61 etc. rather than 58-59-100-101. You can be sure that throwing an error when they enter 60 will sometimes put the recorders off long enough to miss the next finisher. I’d allow 4559-4560-4561 for a similar reason (how often do you enter the minute as the boat approaches the line, then the boat is just that bit slow and you end up having to retype the next minute?).

What is keyed does not need to be the same as what is stored.

In Excel (other spreadsheet programs are available!), times (and dates) with excessive seconds, minutes etc. are automatically stored as legal values by carrying the excess to the next higher entity, so an entry of 67:34 is stored as 01:07:34. Microsoft Labs used extensive user testing and feedback to determine that course of action.

I estimate a 24:59:59 check would detect only 12% of possible keying errors using a standard numeric keypad, but could give a false sense of security. Not a worthwhile exercise.

···

On 6 December 2012 00:53, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Ddhhmmss?

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”

Huw2 · 6 December 2012 12:25

Hi Art et al,

My post was showing the format, that is described in the Sailwave

Help file on the web site, for *** entry of start and finish
times*** and that it allowed for multi-day races by
including a date separated from the time component by an @ sign.

There seem to me to have been two issues discussed in this thread

regarding time formats:

Entry of start, finish and elapsed times
Display of times (start, finish, elapsed and
corrected) which I agree would be best shown in a consistent
style and using a : as the separator is a good one
The entry of start, finish & elapsed is flexible in the use of
several accepted separators : - / . ; [three of which are
on the numeric pad if one is available] or no separator. If no
separator is used then the string of digits must be an even number -
4, 6 or 8 - and is then interpreted as MMSS if 4 digits in length,
HHMMSS if 6 digits in length and for elapsed times DDHHMMSS if 8
digits in length.

I was not aware that DDHHMMSS format worked for finish times -
Sailwave Help documents this as a format for elapsed time. So if it
works for finish times I have learnt something new , and the Sailwave Help needs
updating. I support Jon that when parsing entered times that a warning or
rejection of times is a good idea where:
Sailwave assumes that a day boundary has passed if
the finish time is less than the start time.
If a date is included in a start or finish time it must be separated
from the time component by an @ and the date must be in the format
specified in Setup+SeriesOptions of Sailwave. However, I would
propose that when dates are entered that the way they are displayed
is YYYYMMDD style as this will allow them to be sorted correctly if
for some reason one wants/needs to sort on Finish time for checking
or other purpose.
Kind regards,
Huw

···

SS < 59 - i.e . must be in range 0 to
59

MM < 59 - i.e . must be in range 0 to
59

HH < 23 - i.e . must be in range 0 to
23
Note

On 06/12/2012 09:19, Art Engel wrote:

          I must be missing something. Mark Townsend pointed out
that the format
for Finish and Elapsed times with multiple days is
DDHHMMSS. I assume
that is correct. I didn’t realize that when I asked how
one might
designate multiple days if HH was limited to 23. That
addressed my
concern about checking that hours are only from 0 to 23.
So I don’t
think there is any issue here. You don’t use hours greater
than 23 for
multiple days, you append the number of days at the
beginning of your
entry string.
          Frankly, I'm not sure what Huw's post was about, since we
were
discussing how to enter Finish times with multiple days,
not how to
enter or display dates.
          I think Malcolm's suggestion is on point but I think the
DDHHMMSS format
(or with separators such as “:” or “.”) is just fine as
is. And don’t
see any particular need for another one myself, at least
at this time.
          Art

          On 12/6/2012 12:02 AM, Malcolm Osborne wrote:
          > The format for elapsed time is under discussion here
would a multiple
> day race elapsed time be dd@time?
>
> regards,
> Malcolm Osborne
> Sedgefield South Africa
>
> On 2012/12/06 09:53, Huw Pearce wrote:
>>
>> Hi Art et al,
>>
>> The capability for ‘/long-distance multiple day
race/’ has been in
>> Sailwave for a long time, the following is from
the help file on the
>> web site
>>
>> A start time takes one of the forms:-
>>
>> time
>> date <http://sailwave.com/date>@time
>>
>> time must be one of:-
>>
>> hhmmss
>> hhmm
>> h:m:s
>> h:m
>>
>> If a corresponding finish time is before a start
time, and dates are
>> not used, one midnight boundary is assumed.
Although a : is the most
>> common separator any one of the following can be
used:-
>>
>> : – / . ;
>>
>> Spaces are ignored. Do not mix separators in a
start time.
>>
>> When including a date <http://sailwave.com/date >
separate the time
>> from the date with a “@” character; for example:-
>>
>> 21/3/05@9.30
>>
>> Dates are used in start times <http://sailwave.com/start-time>
>> andfinish times <http://sailwave.com/finish-time >.
The expected date
>> format is defined in Setup+SeriesOptions and must
take one of the forms:-
>>
>> day/month/year
>> month/day/year
>> year/month/day
>> day-month-year
>> month-day-year
>> year-month-day
>>
>> All components must be numeric, leading zeros are
not required, years
>> can be specific in full or in short form (i.e.
1005 or 05 or 5). For
>> example a start time of 9.30am on the 21st of
March 2005 may be:-
>>
>> 21/3/05@9.30
>>
>> Using this style of date/time entry should mean
not having to work out
>> the number of days the race took.
>> Kind regards,
>> Huw
>>
>>
>> On 05/12/2012 22:03, Art Engel wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with mm and ss but how would you
enter times in a long-distance
>>> multiple day race? Art
>>>
>>> On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:
>>> > I would vote that the format checking
for all the times should be
>>> the same.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hh between 0 and 23
>>> >
>>> > mm between 0 and 59
>>> >
>>> > ss between 0 and 59
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mark Townsend
>>> > Phone: 562-433-4366
>>> >
>>> > Cell: 562-533-5909
>>> > Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
>>> >>> >

From: >>> [mailto:
]

On Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20
AM

To: >>> > Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version
2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent
explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -

probably used a variable that I
shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you
Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you
for your excellent User

Guide. I’m

afraid some of the changes are going to
affect this though.

Although I hope

you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error
checking for the Minutes and

Seconds when

entering Elapsed times with the wizard
so it will not let you enter

Minutes

or seconds greater than 59. This will be
in the next release

The question now is should I do the same
for the Finish times when

entering

as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check
the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark
Townsend<

wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and
have a better understanding

of what

triggers the problem. When the options
"Publish nationality field as

hyperlinks to flag" and “Include the
nationality code under flag”

in Series

Properties are checked the results are
corrupted, whn unchecked

they look

fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each
with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four
flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four
flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,

Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality
field as hyperlinks to flag”

and "

Include the nationality code under flag"
checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: >>> >>> >

From: >>> [mailto:
]

On Behalf

Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: >>> > Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0
New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me
which version you tested with

2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor
modification in 2.8.2 just for

browser

compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was
testing with IE on XP. But

I have

code reports that it worked well from
other people.

I was testing with a file with 7
Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6

Finals

each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2
perhaps you could email the

.blw file

and I will fix it.

Jon

— In >>>
,

S Mark

Townsend
wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from
a recently concluded world

championship

that had 118 competitors with six
qualifier races (blue, yellow,

green,

red)

and nine final races (gold, silver).
The results page seems to be

very

funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: >>>
[mailto:

]

On

Behalf

Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49
AM

To: >>>
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version
2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version
2.8.1 to include the abi lity to

include

the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6
characters then it is not

printed if it

is 6 or less then it is printed so
all the normal colours can be

printed

If you start the Start name with a
space the browser will probably

print

it

on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you
can have Races split into

multiple

starts and the Start names can be
appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended
to the Race e.g. Q2Y or

underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no
competitors in the group you are

publishing are ignored so you have
double or triple columns for

qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34,
JON wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback
on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested
feature of displaying Starts in

separate

columns when publishing the Series
table.

From the Menu select Publish -
Results and on the Options tab

there is now

a tick box Publish Starts in
Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns
for each start. Particularly

useful

when

you have Flights as you can see who
is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know
what you think. I’ll tryand

post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug
where they don’t save the starts

correctly this was due to some of
the work Colin has been doing on

the

JSON

publishing. This should be OK again
now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
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07976
709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”

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Jof · 6 December 2012 18:17

Message
I agree with Ian on restricting minutes to 59 etc, being a poor idea. Our club typical records race time as MMSS and the minutes are frequently in to the 60’s and 70’s. Maybe a method of progressive checking is required to keep everybody happy i.e. if entering MMSS only check that SS are 59 or less, if entering HHMMSS check both MM & SS are less than 59, etc. At present if you enter elapsed times as MMSS sailwave already does as per Excel and converts to HHMMSS; the corrected time always show as HHMMSS.

From:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Savell

···

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 06 December 2012 12:06
To:
sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I’ve played around with quite a few options over many years of recording finishes. Restricting minutes to 59 etc. on time entry seems a poor idea to me. A lot of dinghy races finish around the hour and the recorders find it easier to record 58-59-60-61 etc. rather than 58-59-100-101. You can be sure that throwing an error when they enter 60 will sometimes put the recorders off long enough to miss the next finisher. I’d allow 4559-4560-4561 for a similar reason (how often do you enter the minute as the boat approaches the line, then the boat is just that bit slow and you end up having to retype the next minute?).

What is keyed does not need to be the same as what is stored.

In Excel (other spreadsheet programs are available!), times (and dates) with excessive seconds, minutes etc. are automatically stored as legal values by carrying the excess to the next higher entity, so an entry of 67:34 is stored as 01:07:34. Microsoft Labs used extensive user testing and feedback to determine that course of action.

I estimate a 24:59:59 check would detect only 12% of possible keying errors using a standard numeric keypad, but could give a false sense of security. Not a worthwhile exercise.

On 6 December 2012 00:53, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Ddhhmmss?

** Mark Townsend**

Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art
On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:
> I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.
hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com > > > wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@… > wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

07976 709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”

Calum_Polwart · 6 December 2012 18:50

We certainly have stop watches at the club that keep counting in minutes after 59:59 ie. 60:00, 60:01 I hink they go to 75:00 or 90:00 before switching to 1:15:00 or whatever. For race durations around an hour I’d be happy with 61:53 being correctly taken as 1:01:53 without throwing an error. But I’d like it to show as 1:01:53

···

On 6 December 2012 00:53, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Ddhhmmss?

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

–
Jon Eskdale

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BassSC · 6 December 2012 19:00

It would make sense to be able to enter 9900 and have it interpreted as 1:39:00

Anomalies from entering 100+ mins would soon be spotted and easily amended

Then again, Jon could introduce a check box for those that only ever wanted to enter mins and secs! Ie 12345 would be 2:03:45

We’re all being pampered by such flexibility!

William Carruthers

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On 6 December 2012 00:53, S Mark Townsend s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com wrote:

Ddhhmmss?

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Engel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:03 PM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

I agree with mm and ss but how would you enter times in a long-distance
multiple day race? Art

On 12/5/2012 8:01 AM, S Mark Townsend wrote:

I would vote that the format checking for all the times should be the same.

hh between 0 and 23

mm between 0 and 59

ss between 0 and 59

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:20 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Mark for your excellent explanation. I’ll try a fix it today -
probably used a variable that I shouldn’t have done.

Apologies I just noticed I called you Malcom last time.

Can I take this opportunity to thank you for your excellent User Guide. I’m
afraid some of the changes are going to affect this though. Although I hope
you agree they are for the best.

I have now also put in some error checking for the Minutes and Seconds when
entering Elapsed times with the wizard so it will not let you enter Minutes
or seconds greater than 59. This will be in the next release

The question now is should I do the same for the Finish times when entering
as NNN through to NNNNNNNN

That is Format them 00:00:00 and check the Minutes and seconds

My personal preference is I should.

Jon

On 5 December 2012 04:42, S Mark Townsends_mark_townsend@hotmail.com
wrote:

Jon,

I have spent some more time testing and have a better understanding of what
triggers the problem. When the options “Publish nationality field as
hyperlinks to flag” and “Include the nationality code under flag” in Series
Properties are checked the results are corrupted, whn unchecked they look
fine.

Testing environment.

. Sailwave Scoring Software 2.8.2

. Firefox 16.0.2

. There were 118 competitors.

&middot ; Six Qualifier races each with 2 starts.

. Races one through three had four flights Blue, Green, Red, Yellow.

. Races four through six had four flights Black Bars, Hot Pink,
Purple, White.

. Seven Final races.

. Gold and Silver.

There are three screen shots below.

Series Properties window.

Sailwave showing flight assignments

Results with “Publish nationality field as hyperlinks to flag” and "
Include the nationality code under flag" checked.

Results when above not checked.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@hotmail.com

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JON
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:13 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailwave] Re: Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Thanks Malcom,

That is very strange. Could you tell me which version you tested with
2.8.0, 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 I made a minor modification in 2.8.2 just for browser
compatibility.

Also which Browser are you using. I was testing with IE on XP. But I have
code reports that it worked well from other people.

I was testing with a file with 7 Qualifier each with 2 starts and 6 Finals
each with 2 Starts and 59 Competitors

If you still have a problem with 2.8.2 perhaps you could email the .blw file
and I will fix it.

Jon

— In sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com , S Mark
Townsend<s_mark_townsend@…> wrote:

Jon,

I tried publishing the results from a recently concluded world
championship
that had 118 competitors with six qualifier races (blue, yellow, green,
red)
and nine final races (gold, silver). The results page seems to be very
funky, see below.

Mark Townsend
Phone: 562-433-4366

Cell: 562-533-5909
Email: s_mark_townsend@…

From: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
Of Jon Eskdale
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:49 AM
To: sailwave@yahoogroups.com mailto:sailwave%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sailwave] Version 2.8.0 New Feature and Bug Fix

Hi

As Promised a few screen shots.

I’ve also updated it to version 2.8.1 to include the abi lity to include
the

start names in the column heading

If the start name is longer than 6 characters then it is not printed if it
is 6 or less then it is printed so all the normal colours can be printed

If you start the Start name with a space the browser will probably print
it
on a new line see the example below.

Inline images 1

Inline images 4

The following example shows how you can have Races split into multiple
starts and the Start names can be appended or not as you wish

You can have the Start name appended to the Race e.g. Q2Y or underneath

Q1

Yellow

or not at all. Starts that have no competitors in the group you are
publishing are ignored so you have double or triple columns for qualifiers

and and si ngle for Finals.

Inline images 2

Thats it for now

Regards

Jon

On 3 December 2012 01:34, JON<jon@…> wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the previous versions

This version has a new Requested feature of displaying Starts in separate
columns when publishing the Series table.

From the Menu select Publish - Results and on the Options tab there is now
a tick box Publish Starts in Separate Columns

This will Publish separate columns for each start. Particularly useful
when
you have Flights as you can see who is racing who.

Have a pla y with it and let me know what you think. I’ll tryand post a

couple of screen shots tomorrow.

Versions 2.6.3 to 2.7.2 have a bug where they don’t save the starts
correctly this was due to some of the work Colin has been doing on the
JSON
publishing. This should be OK again now.

As Usual any feedback is appreciated

Jon

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Jon Eskdale

07976 709777tel:07976%20709777

Skype “eskdale”